What do you think?

“These weapons, having achieved success, have gone away to the place they came from. They will, again, come into thy hands when the Time for their coming approaches.”

I think it means that the knowledge for such weapons (and pretty much all the advanced knowledge of the ancient vedic civilization) was lost in this war and the time for their second coming is RIGHT NOW, the last century where scientists rediscovered nuclear power.

I think it just illustrates the cyclical nature of the yugas when all is lost at the end of an aeon for it to rise again in the next.

The only eternal existence in the universe is said to be the Supreme Consciousness (referred to as Vishnu, Narayana, etc). And then there is the concept of Sankalpa. The universe is said to have created due to the Sankalpa of this eternal consciousness. Which is why it is depicted as Brahma coming out of the Nabhi of Vishnu. Brahma is the physical universe and nabhi as we know represents the birth, and the nabhi coming out of Vishnu indicates the supreme consciousness causing the birth of this universe. Brahma or our Universe in the end gets back into the Supreme Consciousness.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg! If only Sanskrit were as popular as English today, our entire understanding of world history and the universe would have been totally different. And most probably humans would have been living in harmony with nature around us.

If the ancients could invent mathematics as we use even today (the place value system and zero which form the very foundation of modern mathematics was invented in ancient India), then what could stop them from inventing advanced technologies? After all their civilizations spanned for thousands of years where as our modern science is merely couple of centuries old.

jay

But now I understand why , hinduism is deep very complex , It has ayurveda,Yoga,vedas(Science)and  now nuclear bombsmY just feels like I was sleeping these many yearsall are metaphors all clues are cryin out to us to see through them and find the actual truth

After all vedic culture is a democratic culture, always open for debates.

Giordano Bruno was burnt alive in the west by the Roman Catholic Church for supporting Pantheism.

In India Charvaka who denied God and defied Vedas was able to establish his own Charvaka system which promoted atheism, faithless Nastika vaada and materialism, and all this without facing any kind of physical violence.

It happens only in India

1. Where did I say, I am proud of building or using nukes. Is stating historic facts and interpretaions the same as being proud of them? And I have also said that not only nukes but even war is bad, and we should learn from past lessons in history.

2. In WW2 I have shown with proof about Postdam declaration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potsdam_Declaration) that US used nukes only after Japan did not respond to the allies call to surrender. Why do you only blame the US for nuking Japanese cities? US administration was responsible only for the safety of US citizens. Didnt Japanese administration know about US call to surrender and nuclear threat? Use of nuclear bombs on Japanese cities could have been averted if Japanese rulers had even reciprocated to the call of the allies to surrender. Finally it is the common man of these two Japanese cities who suffered and their safety was the responsibility of Japanese administration, not US administration. Enemies always attack you, its your rulers who should protect you. This is simple political law.

3. You talked about may be Maya is a co-incidence. May be Lithuanian got sanskrit words from Persian etc. Similarly am I not entitled to my own “may be” views?

By the way I have shown that these are not merely my own created “may be” views. There have been research books published by eminent historians and researchers on these views

a) “The Balts” by Marija Gimbutas who is a Lithuanian and the book is about Sanskrit-Lithuanian relationships
b) “Proof of Vedic Culture’s Global Existence” – by Stephen Knapp
c) “The Origin of Human Past” – by V Lakshmikantham

4. Regarding southern Indian languages, the generally held view is that Tamil is oldest, followed by Kannada and then Telugu – and I subscribe to this view. If your claims of Telugu being oldest were true and had sufficient evidence of that, then by definition Telugu would become a classical language and should have been declared so by now. Tamil has already got the classical language status along with Sanskrit, and so is Kannada. I know the politics involved in it, but the “classical language” status of Tamil and Kannada are not without any merit.

5. Kumari Khandam is not a small area. I have mentioned already khanda is the equivalant of a continental mass, just like Bharatha Khanda. Moreover there is also scientific proof of the said region being a continent back in time. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/353277.stm

6. Pak is NOT a puppet of the US. The very basic knowledge a person knowing Pakistani politics should have is that Pak nukes were Chinese blessings. And I am not joking on this. The moment you say you know about Pakistani politics, you should know very much about the Chinese influence on it, because without China Pakistan is nothing. US uses pakistan only on a “use as needed” basis. China treats Pakistan as an “all weather friend” to counter India.

1) i clearly said that we should be proud if ancient indians did build nuclear bombs and tested them, not if they were used to wipe out cities. anyone will argue that why should anyone be proud of building nukes,i say once nuclear technology is developed, making a nuclear bomb is inevitable(it will always happen).
2) the blogger then goes on and says 2 nukes were needed to end WW2. i clearly provided proof saying such a statement if factually and historically wrong. ex: US and its allies did not bomb the mega factories making war goods and continued to transfer technologies to its enemies(technology for raising octane number of fuel, technology to convert coal to oil, IBM gave computing power to the german war machine to organize/coordinate her war machine). if such things would have been stopped WW2 would have been much much less bloodier, got over more quickly, let alone would there have been the need to bomb with nukes (again US used nukes to announce itself as the world superpower).
3)then the blogger  goes on to say that ancient india extended from lithuania to papua new guinea (also surprisingly including the maya empire in mexico, which BTW the name maya maybe just pure coincidence and maybe ancient indians had the technology to explore these areas(who knows) but doesn’t mean it was a part of ancient india). i clearly told him that ancient indian empire mainly extended from the indus river to brahmaputra river to sri lanka in the south. and i defined culturally indian where there is some sort of continuity in the type of agriculture practiced, language spoken, medicine practiced, temples built, classical music practiced, etc, and hence made the point that balochistan(including in iran,pakistan and afghanistan) and afghanistan(including pakhtunwalla in pakistan) are intermediate empires between india and iran and are more closer to iran than india. let alone provinces like kazakstan/lithuania being a part of india.
4)the author then says that lithuanian is closer to sanskrit than say tamil which is also clearly wrong. forget about only lithuanian, even languages like english/german/polish and even languages like arabic have tons of sanskrit influenced vocabulary and there is nothing to be too much surprised about that coz sanskrit entered into these languages always either through the ancient persian languages or through latin and greek. sanskrit words entered arabic and also a corrupted form of hinduism was practiced in arabia(prior to islam) due to trade and also the ruling of vikramaditya in these regions.

why did ancient iran accept sanskrit(or atleast corrupted sanskrit)?, i donno maybe because it was superior in structure/form to the existing indigenous languages there(i mean no offence to iran btw )??  BTW there are tons of ancient anatolian languages which have no connection to sanskrit whatsoever, but later some/many anatolian languages develop sanskrit like languages and even many of  the kings have indian like names(anatolia is present day turkey) this clearly is cultural diffusion through iran.    thats why ancient persian sounds much closer to sanskrit than say tamil/kannada/telugu(if the author would have said ancient persian is closer than tamil i would have agreed since it is factually true).    why does ancient persian sound closer to sanskrit than the dravidian languages?? because they adopted the sanskrit language(or atleast a corrupted form of sanskrit language) and even indian math/astronomy around say 2nd millenium BC, much later than the establishment of sanskrit language in india, which can be atleast conservatively approximated to around 4th/5th millenium BC. thats why so much of the dravidian vocabulary( which has been derived from a combination of maharashtra prakrit(which was spoken in present day maharashtra and MP)), which is a combination of the indigenous vocabulary of south india and prakrit ,is so rich and yet would be indecipherable to many native sanskrit speakers(even though it is very close to sanskrit). 

5) the writer then goes on to claim that kan and talugu are very close to sanskrit yet tamil is something totally different. i then gave him ample evidence of the closeness between kan and tam with atleast 30-40% similar vocabulary(which he initially refuted but only accepted after i gave him the evidence. he initially made stupid claims like kannadigas not able to understand suntv news which is such a childish argument).  i also made a personal postulation that telugu is the oldest of the dravidian languages followed by kannada followed by tamil. BTW kannada is not exactly derived from telugu and these 2 essentially developed independent of each other in and around the same time frame. according to me personally going by the phonetic evidence available tamil is derived from kan and telugu both, being much closer to kannada than telugu. tulu is also a very ancient dravidian language but i don’t have much idea about it.

6)the author then mentioned about sanskritization and literary/archeological evidence of the dravidian languages. i said that the most ancient rulers of present day andhra and karnataka did not promote kan/tel and instead promoted  prakrit. thats why literary evidence comes a bit later for these 2 languages than tamil. i also said that for the initial development of the 4 dravidian languages kan/telugu/tamil and tulu, sanskrit was used as a base and inspiration to form the structure of the language and even some vocabulary was taken from sanskrit.

resanskritization happened  to all the 4 languages tamil/kannada/telugu/tulu much later where lots of sanskrit vocabulary was inserted to supplement the existing vocabulary of these dravidian languages and also the grammar/structure was also furthur sanskritized. however sanskritized tamil was fully followed only in kerala(malayalam), in tamil nadu manipravaalam(sanskritized tamil) were mainly used only by the brahmins/priests as a liturgical language , whereas old tamil still continued to be used as the common language in tamil nadu. this was not due to some hate or something but mainly just due to convenience.

6)writer unnecessarily brings up kumaari khanDam. i clearly showed him what is kumaari khandam and also gave him pictorial explanations of kumaari khanDam and the submerged areas of the indian subcontinent along the west coast of india through google earth, because initially he was arguing simply for the sake of arguing.  
a little background of kumaari khanDam :- many dravidian fanatics claim that kumaari khanDam was a huge sunken continent below kanyakumaari and the present day tamils come from there and have no connection genetically and linguistically with the other people of india. this is clearly BS and i gave pictorial evidence of KumaariKandam which is a very small geographical area and maybe around 2 times the size of say goa atmost.

7) also south india especially western ghats was frequently visite4d since many of the herbs available in the western ghats maynot be available even in himalayas. hence many sanskrit names are still followed in the western ghats. ex: udakamanDalam(place/region of water). udaka is water in sanskrit. usaka is such an ancient word and is rarely used in mainstream sanskrit, which in itself shows the antiquity of this place

mahendragiri,agastyagiri, madhura(madurai), rama sethu,,brahmagiri, kaanchipura, vanavaasi(banavaasi in uttar kannada in karnataka, see again the prakrit influence where vanavaasi becomes banavaasi), gokarNa, mahaabaleshwara, neelagiri, udakamanDalam, etc
these are all places still very much in south india and part of ancient india.

8)the writer also wasn’t convinced when i said that pak is a puppet of US, he mentions osama hiding in pak when i clearly gave him evidence that osama maybe dead since many years unlike what US claimed that he died recently. atleast he was convinced on this one issue.
i mentioned that US gave nukes to pak because it isn’t logically possible for them to build both fission and fusion nukes so soon after india tested her nuclear capabilities when guru gave evidence that nukes came actually from china and not from US. im open to this and maybe the nukes did come from china and not US as i had initially thought. but pak is still very much a puppet of the US and still depends a lot on US aid. watch najam sethi’s interviews to get the current pak perspective and some knowledge of indo-pak geopolitics.

with this long and boring reply i will stop replying here and dirtying this comment section. i made such long comments because i do not want misconceptions to creep into the indian minds about her history and in turn this will make a mockery of the indian culture.
the blogger can delete any/all of my comments or modify them as he wishes

thank you

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