Irish people do have a pre english history as well as pre catholic history documented. For instance it is well known that Irish converted to Christianity sometime during the 5th Century. The Irish language went into decline in the eighteenth century, rapidly losing ground to English because of the British rule.

But there is not a SINGLE documented proof in the so called dravidian literature about any aryan invasion, nor has any of the languages classified as Dravidian declined. So we have a case where the original languages of the people classified as Dravidian exist even today and so does the ancient literature in these languages. The languages classified as belonging to Aryan people exists too and so does the ancient literature in these languages. Yet none of these literature, culture give even the slightest hint of or mention about ANY kind of invasion or being invaded. On the contrary all these literature talk about oneness of the two cultures since ancient times – the Lord Shiva worshipped in far south of the country at Rameshwaram is the same Lord Shiva worshipped in the far north of the Himalayas. And both date back to the ancient pre historic period of Ramayana – literatures in both aryan and Dravidian languages talk about this.

If there was an invasion, wouldnt the ones being invaded or the invaders mention it ATLEAST IN SOME PLACE of their literature. If the invasion destroyed the ancient dravidian culture, then how did it not destroy their languages, and why isnt there any mention of this invasion in the literature of these dravidian languages who are said to be on the receiving end of the invasion? Strange isn’t it?

By the way, if you have not been following recent researches in genetics on migration theories, all modern research points to an Out of India theory saying Man migrated from Africa to India and from India spread to the rest of the world including Europe.

thats like saying how can Irish (rish) people speak english and be catholic.

I dont expect this article to get any better from here

Genetic migration research shows that all non-african people originated from India.

This would be consistent with “Out of Africa” theory as Migration was first along the Coast. The ancients after Settling down at a point on the coast must have explored Land up towards the North, or towards the Central Ridge between East and West Coast. The Routes chosen must have been along the Rivers. Imagine the groups that went up the Saraswati River up towards the Himalayas. Imagine the ones that managed to reach what we today call Madhya Pradesh and then beyond.

I do see common beliefs and stories and Gods and Temples and rituals of birth and Death, Marriage, rites related to Seasons and Agriculture.

Point I want to make is there are far too many things common between the so called divided Arayans and Dravidians and these should neither be ignored nor disputed.

Wheather Saraswati is the Goddess of Wisdom or Godawari or Narmada or Cauvery is not important, what is important is the Fact that Vedas are neither Dravidian nor Arayan (North Indian).

This would be consistent with “Out of Africa” theory as Migration was first along the Coast. The ancients after Settling down at a point on the coast must have explored Land up towards the North, or towards the Central Ridge between East and West Coast. The Routes chosen must have been along the Rivers. Imagine the groups that went up the Saraswati River up towards the Himalayas. Imagine the ones that managed to reach what we today call Madhya Pradesh and then beyond.

I do see common beliefs and stories and Gods and Temples and rituals of birth and Death, Marriage, rites related to Seasons and Agriculture.

Point I want to make is there are far too many things common between the so called divided Arayans and Dravidians and these should neither be ignored nor disputed.

Wheather Saraswati is the Goddess of Wisdom or Godawari or Narmada or Cauvery is not important, what is important is the Fact that Vedas are neither Dravidian nor Arayan (North Indian).

Mohenjadaro has no clues of any invasion, these are all old theories of Max Mullers times. As I have said earlier, you cant have the same culture if aryans had invaded dravidians. You acknowledge that Tamil is a very ancient language and has one of the most ancient texts available after Sanskrit, now if there really was an invasion of so called aryans into dravidian society, dont you think there would have been scores of ancient tamil literature which narrate this invasion, fight between aryans and dravidians and so on? The fact is, there is none. And even bigger fact is, as I=Indian has stated above, even the most ancient Tamil literature speaks the same language as that of vedic society and ancient sanskrit literature.

If you look when it was for the first time this aryan-dravidian theory was put forth, then you will realize the truth. None of the southern indian societies nor any northern indian societies in the complete ancient history have ever talked about this aryan and dravidian theories till it was put forth by Max Muller & co! How can it be possible that something which none of our ancient literature, history, kingdoms, inscriptions etc ever talked about became known to Max Muller & co just one or two centuries back?

By the way, ancient tamil kingdoms have even great history which is rarely taught in the schools and our governments have little time to spend on researching on such greatness of tamil history, and instead the dravidian movements are politically diverting people’s attention on this aryan-dravidian fake theories. Look at the comments Karunanidhi made about Rama. To say Ravana was a dravidian invaded by Rama the aryan is to talk about history with ignorance, Ravana was a Brahmin and an expert on all the four vedas.

The ancient Tamil kingdom was spread over the entire east asia, if Singapore is called what it is today it is only because of its Tamil history. The temples of Angkorvat in Cambodia, the spread of hinduism in east asia is all because of the mighty ancient Tamil kingdoms. There is a lot of research that needs to be done in the seas of Bay of Bengal and across the east asian countries to dig out the historical facts, but as I said our governments are useless on the front of doing research on our own past. We should have ourselves done research about how the ancient Tamil architectures constructed the mighty Tanjavur temples which is no less a miracle than the construction of ancient pyramids.

King Shenguttuvan is shown as bringing the stone for Kannagi’s idol from the Himalayas, where his ancestors are said to have carved their emblem; he does fight North Indian kings, but there is no hint that their culture is regarded as different. 

In historical accounts, we find Chola and Chera kings proudly claiming descent from Rama or from kings of the Lunar dynasty – in other words, an “Aryan” descent. We are told that the greatest Chola king, Karikala, was a patron of both the Vedic religion and Tamil literature, while the Pandya king Nedunjelyan performed many Vedic sacrifices, and the dynasty of the Pallavas made their capital Kanchi into a great centre of Sanskrit learning and culture. 

Another Pandya king is said to have fed the armies on both sides during the great Bharata war. And let us not forget the reverence accorded in the South to Agastya, the great rishi from the North. 

Countless similar examples could be cited from Sangam poetry or even the ancient Tamil grammar Tolkappiyam. None of this suggests any clash of culture ; rather the contrary, it was a mutual enrichment. While Vedic culture was welcomed in the South and harmonized with local elements, what has come to be called “Hinduism” owes much to the generous contribution the Tamil land made in return, for instance in music, dance, architecture, or the bhakti movement.

The south indian language of thamizh is at least as old as sanskrit and variants of it are being spoken in Afghanistan till date. Indus valley scripts point that they might have spoken an ancient version of the language. It has absolutely no relation to sanskrit whatsoever – the ancient or the modern versions.

Mohenjadaro has left us several clues to confirm an invasion (though none have been found in Harappa yet). There are findings in Adichanallur that predate Harappa indicating that people might have gone from the southern lands to harappa rather than the other way around. We don’t know yet.

Please don’t twist facts and come up with imaginative theories especially when there are so many people who read this and might believe you. I agree that your intentions may be good (any kind of racial or regional discrimination is bad), but selectively analysing info is as good as falsifying it and should not be how you go about it. 

DNA studies clearly have proved that all non-african humans came from India ie India has actually has been a exporter of humanity to the world outside Africa. Early humans migrated to India from Africa and from India they spread to the rest of the world.

Coming to genetic studies of DNA differences between the so called Aryans and Dravidians, it has been proved by the genetic study Kivishield and colleagues who conducted a detailed gene pool study of western eurasians and Indians that the mtDNA combination which is found in 70% of western Eurasians is found in only 5% of Indians and most importantly this percentage in Indians is the same in both northern India and Southern India. So the AIT which says that aryans who invaded northern India and moved the native dravidians to southern India is WRONG because if that were the case then there should have been significant difference between mtDNA traits of people in northern and southern India, and the mtDNA traits of northern Indians should have matched with that of Europeans which definitely is NOT the case.

Reference: T. Kivisheild, 1999, ‘Deep common ancestry of Indian and Western-Eurasian mitochondrial DNA Lineage’, Current Biology, Vol. 9, pp. 1331-34.

AIT has always been a politically motivated theory with no science behind it, be it genetic evidence, or linguistic evidence or cultural evidence or literary evidence – none of the available data in these fields support AIT.