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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 10:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I strongly believe that what people think to be monkeys talking like humans are actually a different human sub species or near relatives. I mean the other day I saw a program in NG about people with such looks living even today, not sure where probably on some Indonesian Islands I guess, not sure about the location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I strongly believe that what people think to be monkeys talking like humans are actually a different human sub species or near relatives. I mean the other day I saw a program in NG about people with such looks living even today, not sure where probably on some Indonesian Islands I guess, not sure about the location.</p>
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		<title>By: viggen</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other day, I was watching National Geographic show about mysterious skulls of Palau (Micronesia).  That research, I think, is still going on.  According to that research, they found a large number of skulls, bones, teeth and other items that indicate presence of a human like miniaturized version of people, who existed in Palau till about 3000 years ago.  Makes me wonder if these miniaturized people with facials looking like monkeys/bears, etc. were a later detereiorated version of monkey people who lived in the era of Ramayan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other day, I was watching National Geographic show about mysterious skulls of Palau (Micronesia).  That research, I think, is still going on.  According to that research, they found a large number of skulls, bones, teeth and other items that indicate presence of a human like miniaturized version of people, who existed in Palau till about 3000 years ago.  Makes me wonder if these miniaturized people with facials looking like monkeys/bears, etc. were a later detereiorated version of monkey people who lived in the era of Ramayan.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurudev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurudev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments Gaurav.

Yes, given the time lineage of Ramayana, it is very much possible that Vanaras were neanderthals. And what&#039;s more, when Sugreeva wants to build the vanara army to fight Ravana, it is clearly mentioned in Ramayana that vanaras from all over the world came over. The places mentioned are Himalayas, Meru (in modern tibet), Vindhyas (modern Madhya pradesh), etc. There are also other geographies whose modern locations we are not sure about like Dhumragiri, Ajjanparvat. There are also mentions of vanara locations like - places where Sun always shines and always sets (probably poles)!

Now, the fact is that puranas are also history. Infact purana means &lt;strong&gt;of ancient times&lt;/strong&gt;! It has been taught wrongly in our schools that ancient Indians did not maintain historic records, while the fact is that puranas written at regular intervals of time were to record the then history of Indian subcontinent, which is why you find lots of these puranas and each belongs to a different era of time. And that is also the reason why you have apart from the very old 18 puranas which document oldest history, you also have many puranas like shivapurana, harivamsa etc which talk about comparitively recent history. Then you also have sthala puranas which talk about the history of individual places, then there are kula puranas which talk about the history of a particular lineage. So Puranas are not Mythology :)

Mahabharatha and Ramayana belong to two great historical era somewhat akin to world wars in modern history are so well documented and hence the most popular documented forms of history, since unlike puranas they are complete in the sense they track a large sequence of events completely ie the life of Rama, and the Kaurava-Pandava histories respectively, and hence look more like a detailed story, and are of course more fascinating than puranas.

Probably a good link to read about Puranas would be &lt;a href=&quot;http://pseudosecularism.blogspot.com/2008/06/puranas-source-of-ancient-indian.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://pseudosecularism.blogspot.com/2008/06/puranas-source-of-ancient-indian.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments Gaurav.</p>
<p>Yes, given the time lineage of Ramayana, it is very much possible that Vanaras were neanderthals. And what&#8217;s more, when Sugreeva wants to build the vanara army to fight Ravana, it is clearly mentioned in Ramayana that vanaras from all over the world came over. The places mentioned are Himalayas, Meru (in modern tibet), Vindhyas (modern Madhya pradesh), etc. There are also other geographies whose modern locations we are not sure about like Dhumragiri, Ajjanparvat. There are also mentions of vanara locations like &#8211; places where Sun always shines and always sets (probably poles)!</p>
<p>Now, the fact is that puranas are also history. Infact purana means <strong>of ancient times</strong>! It has been taught wrongly in our schools that ancient Indians did not maintain historic records, while the fact is that puranas written at regular intervals of time were to record the then history of Indian subcontinent, which is why you find lots of these puranas and each belongs to a different era of time. And that is also the reason why you have apart from the very old 18 puranas which document oldest history, you also have many puranas like shivapurana, harivamsa etc which talk about comparitively recent history. Then you also have sthala puranas which talk about the history of individual places, then there are kula puranas which talk about the history of a particular lineage. So Puranas are not Mythology <img src='http://www.hitxp.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mahabharatha and Ramayana belong to two great historical era somewhat akin to world wars in modern history are so well documented and hence the most popular documented forms of history, since unlike puranas they are complete in the sense they track a large sequence of events completely ie the life of Rama, and the Kaurava-Pandava histories respectively, and hence look more like a detailed story, and are of course more fascinating than puranas.</p>
<p>Probably a good link to read about Puranas would be <a href="http://pseudosecularism.blogspot.com/2008/06/puranas-source-of-ancient-indian.html" rel="nofollow">http://pseudosecularism.blogspot.com/2008/06/puranas-source-of-ancient-indian.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gaurav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaurav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The existence of Neandrathrals around 7000-10000 yrs ago,who totally resemble with lord Hanumana has been predicted by Scientists.The period of Ramayana at the time when Lord Rama and Hanumana existed and as determined by some Indian and European scholars also happens to be around the same period approx. 5200 B.C. Besides ancient records in Sanskrit clearly indicate Ramayana and Mahabharata as &quot;Itihaasas&quot; meaning History in English (which unlike &quot;Vishnupurana&quot; and &quot;Shivapurana&quot; are not &quot;Puranas&quot; meaning Mythology in English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The existence of Neandrathrals around 7000-10000 yrs ago,who totally resemble with lord Hanumana has been predicted by Scientists.The period of Ramayana at the time when Lord Rama and Hanumana existed and as determined by some Indian and European scholars also happens to be around the same period approx. 5200 B.C. Besides ancient records in Sanskrit clearly indicate Ramayana and Mahabharata as &#8220;Itihaasas&#8221; meaning History in English (which unlike &#8220;Vishnupurana&#8221; and &#8220;Shivapurana&#8221; are not &#8220;Puranas&#8221; meaning Mythology in English.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurudev</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 13:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Robert, the many Indians have been so systematically brain washed by this English education to such a extent that they think its all myth and demand scientific proofs and again decide what kind of scientific proof they want, for while Newton&#039;s science is science to them, quantum mechanics is not! Many of these so called scientific intellectual are so outdated even in science that you give them a valid quantum mechanical scientific scenario, and they will call it unscientific :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Robert, the many Indians have been so systematically brain washed by this English education to such a extent that they think its all myth and demand scientific proofs and again decide what kind of scientific proof they want, for while Newton&#8217;s science is science to them, quantum mechanics is not! Many of these so called scientific intellectual are so outdated even in science that you give them a valid quantum mechanical scientific scenario, and they will call it unscientific <img src='http://www.hitxp.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do people think that ram and krishna did not exist - is it because the westeners will laugh at you if you tell them these &quot;tales&quot;.  There are literally thousands of white people who believe that these stories are there people (Aryan)  .Dwarka which has sunk at approx time it says in the mahabharat has been found - there is Adam&#039;s bridge - there are constellations to give the reader the era these &quot;stories&quot; happened.    I guarantee you that muslims or christians had any proof of there religion they owuld not stop being 1. proud and 2.promoting it.
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people think that ram and krishna did not exist &#8211; is it because the westeners will laugh at you if you tell them these &#8220;tales&#8221;.  There are literally thousands of white people who believe that these stories are there people (Aryan)  .Dwarka which has sunk at approx time it says in the mahabharat has been found &#8211; there is Adam&#8217;s bridge &#8211; there are constellations to give the reader the era these &#8220;stories&#8221; happened.    I guarantee you that muslims or christians had any proof of there religion they owuld not stop being 1. proud and 2.promoting it.<br />
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		<title>By: Shriram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shriram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gurudev,Great interpretations .Man i m proud of you.You are awesome in explaining our roots to us.Keep going.Why are there no new blogs.Could you do some similar research in the worship of Shiva Linga and the hidden meaning of the story attributed to it by our divine sages.I am sure what is told about its origin should not be understood as it is but with an open mind .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gurudev,Great interpretations .Man i m proud of you.You are awesome in explaining our roots to us.Keep going.Why are there no new blogs.Could you do some similar research in the worship of Shiva Linga and the hidden meaning of the story attributed to it by our divine sages.I am sure what is told about its origin should not be understood as it is but with an open mind .</p>
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		<title>By: mrinal</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rama and Krishna symbolise hinduism.They are source of faith for millions of human.It is very sad to see our politicians playing with their faith be it the ayodha issue or the recent rama setu.we will never know if these people exist in flesh and blood and we should never try to ,what is the point in doubting . Rather than focussing on such controversial issue we should focus on making our country a better place to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rama and Krishna symbolise hinduism.They are source of faith for millions of human.It is very sad to see our politicians playing with their faith be it the ayodha issue or the recent rama setu.we will never know if these people exist in flesh and blood and we should never try to ,what is the point in doubting . Rather than focussing on such controversial issue we should focus on making our country a better place to live.</p>
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		<title>By: sushmeeth.k</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 21:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would like to know abt kalki .......if any one is intrested..........i got some information from veerabrahmam&#039;s book  abt the time of appearance of kalki.......and the society or people or atmosphere then..............i would like to know abt the appearance of kalki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would like to know abt kalki &#8230;&#8230;.if any one is intrested&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.i got some information from veerabrahmam&#8217;s book  abt the time of appearance of kalki&#8230;&#8230;.and the society or people or atmosphere then&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..i would like to know abt the appearance of kalki</p>
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		<title>By: sushmeeth.k</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 21:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guru,
i do believe in the existance of rama or hanuman in the past..............vedas,dharma or karma.........but  its not just the information  which we should  be intrested in ........
       let me come to the point .....................
    in this present yuga .....or the present period....so many anti_social activities going around us.............murders cheating,rape,politics,breakage of family system{here i refer to decrease in joint families from our previous generation to that of ours and now mostly nuclear families and  this actually puts a lot of  responsibility of rearing up of child on the parents and that too nowadays i find most of the parents busy in their career and i have seen many of my friends of such a kind of families where both parents are busy brother in us ..or sister in uk....etc....now only induvidual is left .....and he is not exposed so many things he should be exposed to but he is now exposed to both good and bad .....and obviously bad tastes good in the beginning...................and even increasing divorse rates almost 4 times in one year from 2006 to 2007......}all this leading to still further breakage of our system...............and slowly losing our mother tiongue itself....................
   soo i agree with u that tales like panchatantra are needed now.........
    but still more i would like to  say that ,i dont remember any god saying &quot;&quot;common read abt me or  or worship me &quot;&quot; but i always found him saying to choose the right path...in ur life  let it be in bhagvat gita or ramayana {found so many good things while reading ramayana ...}.........if u take crist,or guru nanak ,or saibaba............any body........they all focussed on right living    ..................so i feel following them is much more important ...............than reading abt them......................and i feel that its our generation that needs ramayana  etc.........more than that of our previous ones.............
     its my small advice to the readers that  if u believe rama{crist, sai,etc....} then follow him  rather than praising his name or worshipping them..........thats the real essence of religion{dharma}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guru,<br />
i do believe in the existance of rama or hanuman in the past&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..vedas,dharma or karma&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;but  its not just the information  which we should  be intrested in &#8230;&#8230;..<br />
       let me come to the point &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
    in this present yuga &#8230;..or the present period&#8230;.so many anti_social activities going around us&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.murders cheating,rape,politics,breakage of family system{here i refer to decrease in joint families from our previous generation to that of ours and now mostly nuclear families and  this actually puts a lot of  responsibility of rearing up of child on the parents and that too nowadays i find most of the parents busy in their career and i have seen many of my friends of such a kind of families where both parents are busy brother in us ..or sister in uk&#8230;.etc&#8230;.now only induvidual is left &#8230;..and he is not exposed so many things he should be exposed to but he is now exposed to both good and bad &#8230;..and obviously bad tastes good in the beginning&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.and even increasing divorse rates almost 4 times in one year from 2006 to 2007&#8230;&#8230;}all this leading to still further breakage of our system&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and slowly losing our mother tiongue itself&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
   soo i agree with u that tales like panchatantra are needed now&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
    but still more i would like to  say that ,i dont remember any god saying &#8220;&#8221;common read abt me or  or worship me &#8220;&#8221; but i always found him saying to choose the right path&#8230;in ur life  let it be in bhagvat gita or ramayana {found so many good things while reading ramayana &#8230;}&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;if u take crist,or guru nanak ,or saibaba&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;any body&#8230;&#8230;..they all focussed on right living    &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;so i feel following them is much more important &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;than reading abt them&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.and i feel that its our generation that needs ramayana  etc&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;more than that of our previous ones&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
     its my small advice to the readers that  if u believe rama{crist, sai,etc&#8230;.} then follow him  rather than praising his name or worshipping them&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.thats the real essence of religion{dharma}</p>
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