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		<title>By: Ram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All,
Once again an excellent article. Being born in a caste that Indian Government considers as forward caste, i want to bring few things to everybody&#039;s notice. Mr. Ananymous thinks its law of Karma that&#039;s catching up. Honestly i find it hard to believe that Brahmin&#039;s could have ever planned the act of untouchables. The reason behind that was to ensure purity of thoughts and body. I personally can vouch that if you have a pure body, your mind will start thinking good thoughts and pure thoughts. For we all can say, Brahmins did not want to touch &quot;&quot;other&quot;&quot; folks for the reason that might spoil their sanctity. Brahmins have never ruled over and never will, but trust me whatever laws you change Brahmin folks will keep beating the system. The reason is Brahmins are more open to changes and are willing to learn.

Reservation, what a stupid waste of resources. Its like making a chicken fly with eagles. How can you expect people with lower IQ to compete with other smart folks and also on global level. You can create reservation locally and even nationally but not internationally. This is like making a superman from a weak guy. The rich can only support the poor, the strong can only support the weak. If you want reservation which i think we should, lets devise it based upon the income you make. Have your IT returns and show proof that you make way below the poverty line or whatever is the prescribed level as per Goverment of India. This again will be adjusted on yearly basis factoring inflation into account.

The reason the Constiution has reservation is because it wants the backward community to get the knowledge which the so called Brahmins never taught them. But who suppresses this folks these days and not get the required knowledge? There is atleast no suppressment these days, so lets get rid of the reservation based upon caste system and keep the reservation based on &quot;&quot;Income&quot;&quot;.  This way once we can become truly Superpower. This also will consistenly eliminate the reservation and soon within 100-150 years we will have no reservations.

Thanks
ram</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All,<br />
Once again an excellent article. Being born in a caste that Indian Government considers as forward caste, i want to bring few things to everybody&#8217;s notice. Mr. Ananymous thinks its law of Karma that&#8217;s catching up. Honestly i find it hard to believe that Brahmin&#8217;s could have ever planned the act of untouchables. The reason behind that was to ensure purity of thoughts and body. I personally can vouch that if you have a pure body, your mind will start thinking good thoughts and pure thoughts. For we all can say, Brahmins did not want to touch &#8220;&#8221;other&#8221;" folks for the reason that might spoil their sanctity. Brahmins have never ruled over and never will, but trust me whatever laws you change Brahmin folks will keep beating the system. The reason is Brahmins are more open to changes and are willing to learn.</p>
<p>Reservation, what a stupid waste of resources. Its like making a chicken fly with eagles. How can you expect people with lower IQ to compete with other smart folks and also on global level. You can create reservation locally and even nationally but not internationally. This is like making a superman from a weak guy. The rich can only support the poor, the strong can only support the weak. If you want reservation which i think we should, lets devise it based upon the income you make. Have your IT returns and show proof that you make way below the poverty line or whatever is the prescribed level as per Goverment of India. This again will be adjusted on yearly basis factoring inflation into account.</p>
<p>The reason the Constiution has reservation is because it wants the backward community to get the knowledge which the so called Brahmins never taught them. But who suppresses this folks these days and not get the required knowledge? There is atleast no suppressment these days, so lets get rid of the reservation based upon caste system and keep the reservation based on &#8220;&#8221;Income&#8221;".  This way once we can become truly Superpower. This also will consistenly eliminate the reservation and soon within 100-150 years we will have no reservations.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
ram</p>
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		<title>By: Gurudev</title>
		<link>http://www.hitxp.com/articles/politics/history-obc-backward-class/comment-page-2/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Gurudev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb Quote! Worth to be spread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superb Quote! Worth to be spread.</p>
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		<title>By: ursri</title>
		<link>http://www.hitxp.com/articles/politics/history-obc-backward-class/comment-page-2/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>ursri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently read a smashing quote on someone&#039;s shirt
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We support OBC
Not Reservation
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently read a smashing quote on someone&#8217;s shirt<br />
<b><br />
We support OBC<br />
Not Reservation<br />
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		<title>By: Gurudev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurudev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Arun
We definitely need a drastic change in terms of people who represent us in the parliament and assemblies.. and also in the way they function..
As of now there is no accountability in the political system.
We need more young faces in the system, who can work for the nation and for the people, not for their own self or for their party.

If all our representatives starting from local corporators to the MPs have a true dedication towards the country and society, within a span of five years there can be developmental works which would exceed that of the past 60 years!

This is what I wrote once
http://hitxp.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/the-need-for-political-accountability/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Arun<br />
We definitely need a drastic change in terms of people who represent us in the parliament and assemblies.. and also in the way they function..<br />
As of now there is no accountability in the political system.<br />
We need more young faces in the system, who can work for the nation and for the people, not for their own self or for their party.</p>
<p>If all our representatives starting from local corporators to the MPs have a true dedication towards the country and society, within a span of five years there can be developmental works which would exceed that of the past 60 years!</p>
<p>This is what I wrote once<br />
<a href="http://hitxp.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/the-need-for-political-accountability/" rel="nofollow">http://hitxp.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/the-need-for-political-accountability/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The National Knowledge Commission headed by Sam Pitroda, publicly opposed this.. some people even resigned as a symbol of protest against Arjun Singhs Move...
Then what?
Even if court opposes this... its going to happen..

Because none of the parties want to go against the vote bank politics..

hhmm.. let facts never remains facts... and let people start using &quot;&quot;common sense&quot;&quot; for a change</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The National Knowledge Commission headed by Sam Pitroda, publicly opposed this.. some people even resigned as a symbol of protest against Arjun Singhs Move&#8230;<br />
Then what?<br />
Even if court opposes this&#8230; its going to happen..</p>
<p>Because none of the parties want to go against the vote bank politics..</p>
<p>hhmm.. let facts never remains facts&#8230; and let people start using &#8220;&#8221;common sense&#8221;" for a change</p>
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		<title>By: ursri</title>
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		<dc:creator>ursri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I agree anonymus.  What you reap is what you sow. I will come to this point little later</p>
<p>I would not like to reveal my caste though I am brought up in decent and cultured family.<br />
This is to avoid misinterpreting my views in the post.<br />
But primarily, when I try to identify myself, today I am carved out by cultured, righteous ppl of different caste, creed, language etc&#8230;taking right character from anyone &amp; everyone , anywhere, anytime. I follow my customs, truly aware of its importance, if not sure, I try to find truth in beliefs and actions but continue to be human being first.</p>
<p>Reg: What you reap is what you sow.<br />
For that we <b> need to understand karma very well. </b><br />
Just a single thought is the seed of karma.  The effect would be on self, family, village, or nation and generations together.<br />
<b> How far ppl have understood castism? and their duty towards the entire society?  </b> Somebody divided and ruled us.. interpreted Varnashrama wrongly.. without even verifying we accepted their version of history about us.</p>
<p>So yester yrs upper caste didn’t understand their duties and tortured others with their power, their succeeding generations suffered and are suffering.  Now innocent uppercaste is suffering while lower caste is afflicting.  <b> The aim is BALANCE in Society.</b></p>
<p><b> The question is if yesterday’s action is reason for today’s sufferings, then how to stop its influence on tomorrow? </b> What is our contribution in this direction? Should we allow it to continue its ripple effect in future too?</p>
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		<title>By: Gurudev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurudev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anonymous
There is nothing to fear. You can leave your name :)
This upper caste/lower caste thing did not exist in ancient India. It also started with some vested interests in the medieval India and continued into the British India, became a political tone after that, with a lot of hype.

Some of the so called upper caste and zamindari people ill treeated others during the medieval and British India, in the mean time Ambedkar entered the scene when free Indian constitution was formed, and he rightly felt that to correct the lack of opportunities available to suppressed classes for the past few centuries, a reservation should be provided for the first generation after Independence, and that was it.

But our politicians created a votebank out of it, never put an end to reservation, unlike what Ambedkar and Nehru really wanted, instead these politicians kept on extending the duration, adding new classes and the masses into the list, today most of the castes in the list were actually never oppressed at all!!
And we have the concept of OBC, talks about MBC etc..

There is no need for any reservation today because equal opportunities are available for all. Only in lower education economic reservation should be provided, because poverty has no caste/religion basis.
The solution for reservations is to first remove the politicians who depend on votebanks to come to power and not on the work they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous<br />
There is nothing to fear. You can leave your name <img src='http://www.hitxp.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
This upper caste/lower caste thing did not exist in ancient India. It also started with some vested interests in the medieval India and continued into the British India, became a political tone after that, with a lot of hype.</p>
<p>Some of the so called upper caste and zamindari people ill treeated others during the medieval and British India, in the mean time Ambedkar entered the scene when free Indian constitution was formed, and he rightly felt that to correct the lack of opportunities available to suppressed classes for the past few centuries, a reservation should be provided for the first generation after Independence, and that was it.</p>
<p>But our politicians created a votebank out of it, never put an end to reservation, unlike what Ambedkar and Nehru really wanted, instead these politicians kept on extending the duration, adding new classes and the masses into the list, today most of the castes in the list were actually never oppressed at all!!<br />
And we have the concept of OBC, talks about MBC etc..</p>
<p>There is no need for any reservation today because equal opportunities are available for all. Only in lower education economic reservation should be provided, because poverty has no caste/religion basis.<br />
The solution for reservations is to first remove the politicians who depend on votebanks to come to power and not on the work they do.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>usri u have shaken me up..thanks for the info...
but are brahmins also at fault may be not the current or previous generation but the foreforefore fathers / ancestors...&quot;&quot;it is said that what you sow is what you reap&quot;&quot;
Its is said that brahmins behaved/tourchered very wrongly to dalits and lower casts in old days and it is that curse(shrap) which is coming back to brahmins......
I am brahmin and felt scared for future after reading what you have written and the video.....

Guru and you are absolutly correct in saying
&quot;&quot;once the frequency of all/most individuals matches, a mass movement will be created automatically&quot;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>usri u have shaken me up..thanks for the info&#8230;<br />
but are brahmins also at fault may be not the current or previous generation but the foreforefore fathers / ancestors&#8230;&#8221;"it is said that what you sow is what you reap&#8221;"<br />
Its is said that brahmins behaved/tourchered very wrongly to dalits and lower casts in old days and it is that curse(shrap) which is coming back to brahmins&#8230;&#8230;<br />
I am brahmin and felt scared for future after reading what you have written and the video&#8230;..</p>
<p>Guru and you are absolutly correct in saying<br />
&#8220;&#8221;once the frequency of all/most individuals matches, a mass movement will be created automatically&#8221;"</p>
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		<title>By: Gurudev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurudev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes you are right.. first lets start doing at an individual level at least.. in terms of action.. in the smallest way we can....
because there is nothing called &#039;insignificant improvement&#039;, every small improvement is very significant..
and once the frequency of all/most individuals matches, a mass movement will be created automatically...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes you are right.. first lets start doing at an individual level at least.. in terms of action.. in the smallest way we can&#8230;.<br />
because there is nothing called &#8216;insignificant improvement&#8217;, every small improvement is very significant..<br />
and once the frequency of all/most individuals matches, a mass movement will be created automatically&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ursri</title>
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		<dc:creator>ursri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Video clip is informative.  Thanks for the link.  We Indians are now disorganized in most of areas-socially, economically.  We were in right path but we allowed others to lead to dark space.  It is now our responsibility to reach goal when we have realized the fact.  If the start is not a mass movement, we ourself can do it in individual level.  and inspire others too to make a big stream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Video clip is informative.  Thanks for the link.  We Indians are now disorganized in most of areas-socially, economically.  We were in right path but we allowed others to lead to dark space.  It is now our responsibility to reach goal when we have realized the fact.  If the start is not a mass movement, we ourself can do it in individual level.  and inspire others too to make a big stream.</p>
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