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Jan 0615Reservation in Private Sector
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’God Save India from the vote bank politics of this government. They cant even tolerate India developing with its IT talent. Now the government is demanding reservation for backward(?) castes in private sector too!!!
If things go as the government wants it to, then a java/.net programmer who receives 9 out of 10 in an interview might have to still lose his job because somebody else who received 6 out of 10 belongs to a backward caste!!!
What is this government trying to say by demanding reservation in private sector? Is it trying to say that IT companies and other private sectors are not giving jobs to backward caste people???
OR is it trying to say that backward caste people are not competent enough to get themselves jobs in the IT sector and other private companies and hence need reservation??Coming to the practical side of it, what could be the end result of this? Well, thanks to IT and other booming private sectors like automobiles, biotechnology etc reverse brain drain had started and Indian talents had started to prefer India rather than migrating to US and other western countries. But now brain drain will start again, all top IT talents and others prefer to go back to west again rather than being here and losing job to less talented people just because they are not backward (in caste)!!
And do you think western giants like Intel, IBM, Microsoft will continue to stay in India after that?? No way. Thanks to the congress led government and its culture of appeasement politics and votebank politics India will suffer more and Great Indian Dream will move far and far from reality!
I was perfectly right when I thought that Congress back to power in centre means India being ruined yet again!!!
Recently, in the United States when a certain political section was against outsourcing of IT and other sectors to India and other eastern countries, the business class there ensured that not only did that political section be silenced but also lose its elections!!! Will our private industries including giants like Inforsys, Wipro, TCS show similar courage, guts and fight out the menace of reservation together and planning strategically?? Will they be able to pressurise the government to stop this disastorous move?? Will the government stop behaving like an Insane??
The result of this tussle will decide how faster we move towards the Great Indian Dream or how far will we be thrown from that..Related posts:
10 Responses to “Reservation in Private Sector”
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ramanna says:
The History of Reservations:
Caste Based Reservation in India Started in 2nd Century BC. In Manusmriti -the law book of Brahmins all the laws were based on Caste and no Merit was ever considered. It divided people into High and Low Castes on the basis of their birth and not on the basis of Merit. Wealth, Political power, Spiritual leadership, Education, Ownership of Land, Trade and all lucrative aspects were reserved purely to the higher castes.
The Concept:
The correct term used for reservation in the Indian Constitution is Representation. Those who have benefited from reservation and are enjoying the fruits of reservation must first of all understand the true meaning of reservation. It is not given to anyone in his individual capacity. It is given to individual as a representative of the underprivileged community. The beneficiaries of reservations are in turn expected to help their communities to come up. Reservation is a democratic principle to provide representation to the castes hitherto remained unrepresented in the governance of the country.
Justice Reddy observed While we agree that competitive skill is relevant in higher posts, we do not think it is necessary to be apologetic about reservation in posts, higher or lower, so long as the minimum requirements are satisfied.On the other hand, we have to be apologetic that there still exists a need for reservation.
Article16 (4) is not a poverty alleviation programme. Its singular aim is to redistribute power to those who have been kept out of the state apparatus so as to end their educational, social and economic backwardness and this class is not less than 77 % of the population of the country.
-Justice P.B.Sawant.
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Discrimination for dummies: V 2008
Increasingly, job quotas are cited as ‘discrimination’ – in reverse. But the word discrimination in terms of caste means something very different that the media mostly do not, or choose not to, understand, writes P Sainath.19 January 2008 – A signal achievement of the Indian elite in recent years has been to take caste, give it a fresh coat of paint, and repackage it as a struggle for equality. The agitations in the All India Institute of Medical Sciences and other such institutions were fine examples of this. Casteism is no longer in defensive denial the way it once was. (“”Oh, caste? That was 50 years ago, now it barely exists.”") Today, it asserts that caste is killing the nation – but its victims are the upper castes. And the villains are the lower orders who crowd them out of the seats and jobs long held by those with merit in their genes.
This allows for a happy situation. You can practise casteism of a visceral kind – and feel noble about it. You are, after all, standing up for equal rights, calling for a caste-free society. Truth and justice are on your side. More importantly, so are the media. Remember how the AIIMS agitation was covered?
The idea of ‘reverse discrimination’ (read: the upper castes are suffering) is catching on. In a curious report on India, The Wall Street Journal, for instance, buys into this big time. It profiles one such upper caste victim of ‘reverse discrimination’ with sympathy. (“”Reversal of Fortunes Isolates India’s Brahmins,”" Dec. 29, 2007.) “”In today’s India,”" it says, “”high caste privileges are dwindling.”" The father of the story’s protagonist is “”more liberal”" than his grandfather. After all, “”he doesn’t expect lower-caste neighbours to take off their sandals in his presence.”" Gee, that’s nice. They can keep their Guccis on.
A lot of this hinges, of course, on what we like to perceive as privilege and what we choose to see as discrimination. Like many others, the WSJ report reduces both to just one thing: quotas in education and jobs. No other form of it exists in this view. But it does in the real world. Dalit students are routinely humiliated and harassed at school. Many drop out because of this. They are seated separately in the classroom and at mid-day meals in countless schools across the country. This does not happen to those of “”dwindling privileges.”"
Dalit meetings are always measured in caste, even racist, terms. This, although Dalits are not a caste but include people from hundreds of social groups that have suffered untouchability.
Students from the upper castes do not get slapped by the teacher for drinking water from the common pitcher. Nor is there much chance of acid being thrown on their faces in the village if they do well in studies. Nor are they segregated in hostels and in the dining rooms of the colleges they go to. Discrimination dogs Dalit students at every turn, every level. As it does Dalits at workplace.
Yet, as Subodh Varma observes (The Times of India, December 12, 2006), their achievements in the face of such odds are impressive. Between 1961 and 2001, when literacy in the population as a whole doubled, it quadrupled among Dalits. Sure, that must be seen in the context of their starting from a very low base. But it happened in the face of everyday adversity for millions. Yet, the impact of this feat in terms of their prosperity is very limited.
The WSJ story says “”close to half of Brahmin households earn less than $100 (or Rs.4000) a month.”" Fair enough. (The table the story runs itself shows that with Dalits that is over 90 per cent of households.) But the journalist seems unaware, for example, of the report of the National Commission for Enterprises in the Unorganised Sector. Which says that 836 million Indians live on less than Rs.20, or 50 cents, a day. That is, about $15 a month. As many as 88 per cent of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes (and many from the Other Backward Classes and Muslims) fall into that group. Of course, there are poor Brahmins and other upper caste people who suffer real poverty. But twisting that to argue ‘reverse discrimination,’ as this WSJ story does, won’t wash. More so when the story admits that, on average, “”[Brahmins] are better educated and better paid than the rest of Indian people.”"
Oddly enough, just two days before this piece, the WSJ ran a very good summary of the Khairlanji atrocity a year after it occurred. That story, from a different reporter, rightly suggests that the economic betterment and success of the Bhotmange family had stoked the jealousy of dominant caste neighbours in that Vidarbha village. But it ascribes that success to India’s “”prolonged economic boom which has improved the lot of millions of the nation’s poorest, including Dalits.”" Which raises the question: were other, dominant caste groups not gaining from the “”boom?”" How come? Were Dalits the only “”gainers?”"
As Varma points out, 36 per cent of rural and 38 per cent of urban Dalits are below the poverty line. That’s against 23 per cent of rural and 27 per cent of urban India as a whole. (Official poverty stats are a fraud, but that’s another story.) More than a quarter of Dalits, mostly landless, get work for less than six months a year. If half their households earned even $50 a month, that would be a revolution.
Let us face it, though. Most of the Indian media share the WSJ’s ‘reverse discrimination’ views. Take the recent Brahmin super-convention in Pune. Within this explicitly caste-based meeting were further surname-based conclaves that seated people by clan or sub-group. You don’t get more caste-focussed than that. None of this, though, was seen as odd by the media. Almost at the same time, there was another high-profile meeting on within the Marathas. That is, the dominant community of Maharashtra. The meeting flatly demanded caste-based quotas for themselves. Again, not seen as unusual.
But Dalit meetings are always measured in caste, even racist, terms. This, although Dalits are not a caste but include people from hundreds of social groups that have suffered untouchability. The annual gathering in memory of Dr. B R Ambedkar on December 6 in Mumbai has been written of with fear. The damage and risks the city has to stoically bear when the noisy mass gathers. The disruption of traffic. The threat to law and order. How a possible exodus looms of the gentle elite of Shivaji Park. (In fear of the hordes about to disturb their polite terrain.) And of course, the sanitation problem (never left unstated for it serves to reinforce the worst of caste prejudice and allows ‘us’ to view ‘them’ as unclean).
But back to the real world. How many upper caste men have had their eyes gouged out for marrying outside their caste? Ask young Chandrakant in Sategaon village of Nanded in Maharashtra why he thinks it happened to him last week. How many higher caste bastis have been torched and razed in land or other disputes? How many upper caste folk lose a limb or even their lives for daring to enter a temple?
How many Brahmins or Thakurs get beaten up, even burnt alive, for drawing water from the village well? How many from those whose “”privileges are dwindling”" have to walk four kilometres to fetch water? How many upper caste groups are forced to live on the outskirts of the village, locked into an eternal form of indigenous apartheid? Now that’s discrimination. But it is a kind that the WSJ reporter does not see, can never fathom.
In 2006, National Crime Records Bureau data tell us, atrocities against Dalits increased across a range of offences. Cases under the Protection of Civil Rights Act shot up by almost 40 per cent. Dalits were also hit by more murders, rapes and kidnapping than in 2005. Arson, robbery and dacoity directed against them those went up too.
It’s good that the molestation or rape of foreign tourists (particularly in Rajasthan) is causing concern and sparking action. Not so good that Dalit and tribal women suffer the same and much worse on a colossal scale without getting a fraction of the importance the tourists do. The same Rajasthan saw an infamous rape case tossed out because in the judge’s view, an upper caste man was most unlikely to have raped a lower caste woman.
In the Kumher massacre which claimed 17 Dalit lives in that State, charges could not be framed for seven years. In a case involving a foreign tourist, a court handed down a guilty verdict in 14 days. For Dalits, 14 years would be lucky. Take contemporary Maharashtra, home to India’s richest. The attention given to the Mumbai molestation case – where 14 arrested men remained in jail for five days after being granted bail – stands out in sharp contrast to what has happened in Latur or Nanded. In the Latur rape case, the victim was a poor Muslim, in Nanded the young man who was ghoulishly blinded, a Dalit. The Latur case was close to being covered up but for the determination of the victim’s community.
The discrimination that pervades Dalit lives follows them after death too. They are denied the use of village graveyards. Dalits burying their dead in any place the upper castes object to could find the bodies of their loved ones torn out of the ground. Every year, more and more instances of all these and other atrocities enter official records. This never happens to the upper castes of “”dwindling privileges.”" The theorists of ‘reverse discrimination’ are really upholders of perverse practice. ?
P Sainath
19 Jan 2008P. Sainath is the 2007 winner of the Ramon Magsaysay award for Journalism, Literature, and Creative Communication Arts. He is one of the two recipients of the A.H. Boerma Award, 2001, granted for his contributions in changing the nature of the development debate on food, hunger and rural development in the Indian media.
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Arun says:
yaa… even i was almost sure about that it was not by azim…
hence the disclaimer
but admired the comparison, hence thought about Ctrl V here…
you may edit it and change that part which mentioned Azim Premji -
Haha Arun, great one, but this is not by Premji, it is by people like us…
When I had got this forward email, I introduced the pilot part into it and reforwarded.. so guess its a great team work like this
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just sharing a Forwarded mail…
dont know the authenticity, but still admired the comparison============================================
Have a look at this! How convincigly an intelligent man speaks out his heart at the no-sense move made by Indian politicians. I hope that strikes them somewhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PASS IT ON..!Wipro chairman Mr. Azim Premji’s comment on reservation:
I think we should have job reservations in all the fields. I completely support the PM and all the politicians for promoting this. Let’s start the reservation with our cricket team. We should have 10 percent reservation for Muslims. 30 percent for OBC, SC/ST like that. Cricket rules should be modified accordingly.
The boundary circle should be reduced for an SC/ST player. The four hit by an OBC player should be considered as a six and a six hit by an OBC player should be counted as 8 runs. An OBC player scoring 60 runs should be declared as a century.
We should influence ICC and make rules so that the pace bowlers like Shoaib Akhtar should not bowl fast balls to our OBC player.
Bowlers should bowl maximum speed of 80 km/ hour to an OBC player.
Any delivery above this speed should be made illegal.
Also we should have reservation in Olympics. In the 100 meters race, an OBC player should be given a gold medal if he runs 80 meters.
There can be reservation in Government jobs also. Let’s recruit SC/ST and OBC pilots for aircrafts which are carrying the ministers and politicians (that can really help the country…)
Ensure that only SC/ST and OBC doctors do the operations for the ministers and other politicians. (Another way of saving the country…)
Let’s be creative and think of ways and means to guide INDIA forward…
Let’s show the world that INDIA is a GREAT country.
Let’s be proud of being an INDIAN…May the good breed of politicians like ARJUN SINGH long live…
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yes Amit, but if you ask me, reservations should not extend beyond primary education, even college entrance should be based on pure talent..
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Amit says:
Wel I wud like to add a point to this. Let the govt provide reservation in schools and colleges. If they are talented and competent, they WILL get a good job. Y to demand reservation for backward castes in private sector too!!!
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Dear Baite,
This blog is to share the Great Indian Dream with other Indians and pro-Indians on the net. I strongly believe that right information is the key in achieving this dream and hence this effort. I also hope that each of us will also engage ourselves in our own way/deed towards achieving this dream. -
Anonymous says:
Reservations are killing Indian talents
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