A Blunder called Sethusamudram

Ancient bridge constructed by Rama

Bridge built by Rama from India to lanka across Palk Straight

Introduction

The above image are the satellite photographs of the Palk Straight – The ocean passage between South India and Sri lanka. The ocean floor here is shallow and is not navigable and so no ships navigate via this region. All ships which want to move from western world to the eastern world or vice versa via the Indian ocean currently take a longer route of going around the country of sri lanka. Even the ships of India which have to move between the western and Indian coastlines of India take this longer route of going around Srilanka.

The Project

Now, the government of India has come up with a project (in fact it is a project which was suggested long back during the British age itself, but has reached the definitive stages of implementation only now), called the Sethu Samudram Project.

The intentions of the project are good. To remove a silt of about 48 million cubic meters in the palk straight at a cost of Rs 2,427 Crore (24,270 million), and create a channel 167 km long to make the sea in this region navigable. This will shorten the distance between the east and west coasts by about 780 km for the ships! They no longer will have to take the longer route around Srilanka. This will also be a source of greater financial income to India as all international shipment now can pass through the Indian seas in this region with the benefit of this shorter distance, saving about 30 hours of time!

This new canal construction is also said to increase the Naval security of India due to the obvious reasons of making the connections between western and eastern naval sectors of India shorter and easier and more importantly independent of dependency on Srilanka!

Ancient India

Now a bit about ancient India. The ancient Indian text Ramayana talks about a bridge being built in the seas of Palk Straight by the then king Rama of North India who wanted to take an army to the kingdom of Srilanka. This bridge is said to have been built from Dhanushkodi, a place in South Indian coastal region near the sea facing Srilanka, to Mannar in Srilanka.

Satellite Photographs

The satellite photographs at the top of this article are of the Palk Straight. Clearly visible to a naked human eye can be seen a line connecting the main land of India to Srilanka in these photographs. This is exactly at the same place where Ramayana talks about a bridge being constructed by Rama and his army to cross over into Srilanka. It is visible from Dhanushkodi of India to Mannar in Northwest Srilanka and is about 48 kilometers long.

Controversy

The Hindus call this bridge Ram Sethu and is a sacred structure for them since it is mentioned in their ancient texts. The proposed Sethu Samudram project is going to destroy this structure. It is a different question as to whether this is a man made or god made or natural structure. (Well, for a hindu everything natural is God made!). The issue here is that this project in its current proposed format is definitely going to destroy this structure. The controversy is that do we need to have economic progress at the cost of our cultural heritage? In this materialistic world some people might look at everything in terms of money. But the spiritual center of the world, the Indian masses don’t look at it that way.

Let me make it clear, it is totally a different question as to whether this bridge is man made or is it a natural formation, the answer for that question has to come from a thorough unbiased scientific investigation by a committee of national and international experts on the subject. The need to save this structure is that it has been mentioned in the ancient texts and hence definitely is of a cultural value and has historical significance.

Man made or Natural?

Before going deep into any related scientific evidence of whether it is man made or natural, let us see what common sense says. Can a natural formation so precise as 100 m occur all across the way from Indian to srilankan coast line? Is there any other such geological landmark on this planet? How did this happen? What is the scientific evidence for a natural formation like this?

Or if it is not natural, then what is the scientific evidence that this is a man made construction? If it is mad made, then the material which this bridge is made up of should not have its origin in the seas.

Here is what the Department of Earth Science of the Government of India has to say about it
The Geological logging of the bore holes drilled in the inter tidal areas of Ram Sethu reveals very interesting details. In all the bore holes the top portion is seen to be occupied by recent marine sands. In almost of all the boreholes between 4.5 and 7.5m the borehole intersected hard formations, which have been found to be calcareous sand stones and corals. It is to be pointed out here that Corals are comparatively less dense, compact and somewhat easy to carry.

The Corals normally grow atop compact to hard formations for the purpose of stability, and as the sea level rises, the Coral colony grows up vertically to maintain water depth of 1 to 2 m, which is essential for their survival. In the case of Ram Sethu area, we observe that the Coral formations hardly occur 1 to 2.5m in length and resting on loose marine sands. Most of these coral rock pieces are seem to be rounded pebbles of corals. These things appear to point these coral rock pieces and pebbles have been transported and placed in these areas. Since the calcareous sand stones and Corals are less dense than normal hard rock and quite compact, probably these were used by the ancients to form a connecting link to Sri Lanka, on the higher elevations of the Ram Sethu ridge and this is analogous to modern day causeway.

In support of these observations there are many archaeological and geoarchaeological evidences on the south east coast of India around Rameswaram, Tuticorin and the western coast of Sri Lanka. There are raised Teri formations that supported a rich assemblage of mesolithicmicrolithic tools indicating the presence of strong human habitation and activity in these areas as early as 6000 to 7000 years BCE and as recent as 2000 years BCE. On Sri Lanka side there are indications of human habitation extending to late Pleistocene (about 11,000 BCE) based on bone and fossils of human and animal form. All these point to a flourishing human activity on both side of Adams Bridge and probably when the sea levels were just right the link between India and Sri Lanka could have been established.

Arguments

The very first argument in favor of a man made bridge is the ancient references to this structure in the ancient texts of India.

Then comes the nature of the structure. Can natural accumulation be so precise? Look at the photograph again. It defies common sense to say it is natural unless and until one is extremely biased for whatever reasons OR unless one provides a very concrete scientific evidence of how it occurred. Not just use some pseudo-scientific language like It is natural sand and coral formation. From where, why so precise? Did the corals decide to build a bridge?

Some people argue that it is not a real bridge. Well, yes, nobody is saying that Rama had built a concrete bridge like we build today, a real motor-able bridge with supporting pillars etc. Even ancients texts say that this bridge was built using sand and rock boulders! Rocks from the mountains were transported to the construction site using machines says the original text valmiki ramayana

Hastimaatraan mahaakaayaah paashaanaamshacha mahaabalaah parvataamshcha samutpaatya yantraih parivahanti cha 2-22-58, Valmiki Ramayana
which means Vaanara with huge bodies and mighty strength uprooted the elephant sized rocks and mountains and transported them using machinery!

Let me be frank. Till I saw this photograph and realized that this was a shallow sea between India and Srilanka where Rama is said to have built the bridge, I was thinking that the bridge is actually a myth. My thought was how can once construct a bridge across a sea by a few thousand people throwing sand and rock boulders into the sea water?

But now on looking at the photograph and realizing that it is a shallow sea and not a narrow straight, it doesn’t really seem like an impossible task to do one such construction. Note that as per the ancient texts, the bridge was said to have been built not as a permanent structure to connect the two lands, but only to serve one single two-way journey for an invading army from India into Srilanka.

Some people say that the ancient Indian texts are nothing but a mythology. Well, anybody who says this I must say, either

  • has not read these ancient Indian texts (look at some of the scientific explanations in these ancient texts in other parts of this blog) OR
  • is totally prejudiced in believing what he believes than in what it is OR
  • has no general knowledge and is not aware about the recent archaeological findings. For instance, earlier they thought the story in Mahabharatha of Dwaraka being flooded by the seas after the war was a myth, until the ancient city of Dwaraka was found submerged in the seas of Gujarat. They used to say that the river Saraswathi mentioned in these ancient texts was a myth, unless dried up river bed of this river was discovered in North India.

My question is what if we today destroy this Ram Sethu, the bridge, and then tomorrow find a proof that this was indeed a man made construction? Will we get back the bridge, by paying all the money that India has earned by destroying this bridge? Can the lost heritage be brought back?

According to one Oceanographer, the construction of the Sethu Samudram Channel may also increase the risk of tsunamis on the coasts of South India as this shallow water has been protecting the calm sea on this side of the Gulf of Mannar from the wild sea of Bay of Bengal! See this article .

Another issue is that the world’s 30% Thorium reserves are found in the coasts of Kerala. Exposing the Kerala coastline to the rough sea will wash away most of this Thorium into the sea! The fast breeder Thorium based nuclear reactors that Indian scientists are trying to build are based on the fact that we have these large deposits of Thorium which we can use to remove our dependency on other countries like USA and Austrialia for nuclear fuel like Uranium to our nuclear reactors. What will be the result if this monumental blunder project washes away all our Thorium reserves? Will the project be an economic gain then? Even if the Thorium deposits don’t get washed away immediately, the next tsunami in this region will definitely take most Thorium with it into the sea!

It has to be noted that this narrow straight and shallow waters and Ram Sethu is what saved the shores of Kerala from a major disaster during the December 2004 Tsunami!

Awareness

It is interesting to observe that be it Ram Sethu, or the Dwaraka in the seas, etc it is always that the western science, researchers, archaelogists, etc that have been telling the Indians, see here, you have a great tradition, science and culture. The government of India or Indians have done very little to dig into our past history and culture. Forget even structures outside the mainland, there are still numerous un-excavated territories in the main land of India itself! If not for the NASA satellite photographs, the Sethu Samudram channel would have been built, without us even being aware about the destruction of this structure nor the existence of it!

Here is a link to one of the NASA photographs http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/images/ESC/small/ISS006/ISS006-E-23695.jpg

Here are some related links:

http://www.hindujagruti.org/activities/campaigns/religious/ramsetu/

http://www.ivarta.com/columns/OL_070508.htm

http://www.ramsethu.org/

Below is a video presentation from youtube about Ram Sethu and the effects of Sethu Samudram. The next video is an aerial view of Ram Sethu (called Adam’s bridge by British). One can see whether it looks like a man-made or a natural structure!

  • Jayakumar .K

    what to do! if we wish to do something to preserve our knowledge treasure or to teach our vedic science to present  generation our vulgar politicians start shouting Hindu fundamentalism &   saffronisation

    • Gurudev

      Ignore them, neither they are interested in learning nor are we interested in teaching them. We only care about those who are genuinely interested :)

  • Uday

    Ram built it to defeat Ravan, that is obvious and not even debatable. I think we should study it, analyse it, and get rid of it because the navy needs a channel to secure our waters against modern day Ravans eg China and Pakistan.

    • http://www.hitxp.com Gurudev

      Sethusamudram if allowed will be another large money making business for the politicians and will add yet another item in the list of corruption scams in this country.

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    vow

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    vowww

  • harit

    gud article

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    need more information about ramayana

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    good history

  • Tapan Nanda

    Hi Gurudev,

    Its really a nice article. I had read about this sometime back but finding all the information and a helthy atmosphere to discuss actually attracted me. I truely beleive in destiny and Hindu culture. Remember Lord Krishna himself never took any effort to save Yadu vansh because they have reached a level where they need to be destroyed to save other. If Rama sethu was suppose to be destroyed then it will eventually but that doesnt give anyone any authority to destroy.

    Similarly i beleive currently whatever is happening against Hinduism or mankind or faith will definitely punished by God in some form only in its own time….. In any case dear friends and Hindus please keep faith and trust your own religion… it will go on for ever….

    I have added this blog link in my own page. Please keep posted new stuffs.

    Thanks and Regards
    Tapan

  • Raghupathy Nair

    It is absolutely NECESSARY to Preserve, Ramsethu,A bridge made by Hindu GOD Sree RAM.

  • http://gmail mani

    useful one

  • KIRAN

    Dear Gurudev,
    Nice article.

    Now I am in srilanka. About Ramayana, and bridge, any thing is existing in lanka? if so pls tell me the details

  • Rajesh

    Great Article Gurudev Ji.

    Please continue with the great work. Surely congress government will do everything to destroy anything to do with hinduism and ultimately hindus in the name of “”Secularism”". It is a fashion for sundry morons to talk of secularism and destroy hindu culture at the same time. How many of these morons will advocate the destruction of kabba at mecca in the name of secularism? None.
    Why- Because they are scum.
    These scoundrels will get what they deserve in due course of time- Which is shite in their mouth and on their face.

    Thanks,
    Rajesh

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    Thanks Sudarshan!

  • http://www.ssjaswal.com Sudarshan

    Gurudev…

    I fully… cent percent agree with you. I share the same sentiments and ideology, what you have. Its really good to see that there are people into thinking, and seeking reasons on issues…

    Hari Om.

  • Karuna

    Thankyou Gurudev,

    Very inspirational thoughts. I will remember this .

    Karuna

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    Thanks Karuna
    Yes you are absolutely right about the need to make people aware about the facts. Reality delayed is reality denied!

    Blogging is just the first step in this direction.
    Instead of waiting for some authority, why not we ourselves become one :)
    As Gandhiji said, be the change you want to see in the world!
    If we think we can, we can!

  • Karuna

    Hello Gurudev,

    I am impressed by your factual knowledge; your good job in creating interest in people in the topics undertaken is clearly noticed in the various links I have read in only the past 2 days that I have come to know to be existing. I only have a suggestion, it will be really fantastic if you could somehow bring it out for the world to know through some kind of documentary movie that can reach masses; to be honest,I accidentally got directed to your web links; and I am really grateful that this happened to me; but how many people can be this lucky? Awareness is the answer to some issues that you have raised; and if somebody who has some kind of authority (to make some kind of influencing decisions to materialize the preservation of such historic remains) reads and understands and values such gifts from our ancestors, I would consider all of us lucky and really this discussion that we have and the initial thought brought out by you will not be useless and left just to discovery only for discussion purposes. Sure this forum is just the beginning and we should continue to have this. Keep up the good job, Gurudev.

    Karuna

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    Maduraikkaran

    Where have I ever said it is trivial or politically complicated? Please read my comment again. I have clearly stated that these are “”simple issues to resolve”" and “”politicians have MADE it complicated”" for their own votebank purposes. If politicians really want to solve it, it wont take more than a day to sit across the table and come out with practical solutions. They simply lack the guts and will to do so because resolving the problem will remove their votebank. Thats it.

    Who has to resolve the problem? Isnt it the politicians of the states? What have they done to solve it? Everybody knows what the problems are. How many have offered practical solutions other than pitching emotions to get votes? When Devegowda after becoming prime minister suggested to Mr Karunanidhi to build another dam across cauvery dedicated only to supply water to Tamilnadu using the funds from the center, why did Karunanidhi reject it? Wouldnt it have solved the problem?

    When you have only one glass of water, and there are two people who are thirsty and when both want that entire glass of water, which of the following options make sense?
    To fight over the one glass of water? Or to explore ways to get another glass of water so that both are happy finally?

    And as for the sethusamudram issue, you are saying as if I am some politician who is trying to take political mileage of this issue by blowing it out of proportion!!! I dont need any voter to come and vote for me nor have I stood for any elections, personally there is no material gain or loss for me whether the bridge stays or goes.

    On the other hand if the bridge goes then its not just the bridge’s cultural heritage that will get destroyed, endangering rare marine life forms, loss of livelihood for thousands of fishermen families in Tamilnadu cutting across religions, the tsunami danger to the west coast of India endangering thousands of lives, the danger to the vast reserves of thorium deposits in the shores of kerala, etc and etc.
    See my article http://hitxp.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/sethusamudram-an-indepth-analysis/

    And all this to gain what? Complete economic nonsense which will be a loss making venture from day one. Look at the CNN-IBN report which clearly states that this project if implenented will be a white elephant.
    http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/49195/sethusamudram-project–security-concerns–environmental-issue.html
    http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/oct/01inter.htm

    The country will also lose a important part of its heritage and culture. For me Rama is a historical person who walked on this planet.

    As for the sethusamudram, Shoals are an after formation on top of the bridge. Where did the rocks come from? Natural?? Ask any geologist. Even the head of the Geological Survey of India has clearly said that the formation is man made. Corals always grow on rocks, but here you see sand beneath the corals along the entire stretch!

    The geo/archaeological findings of teri formations, finding of large amounts of mesolithic-microlithic tools and human fossils on both sides of the bridge by Department of Earth-Science in March 2007. What does it suggest?

    S Badrinarayanan, former director of Geological Survey of India and a member of the National Institute of Ocean Technology (NIOT) says that Ramsethu is NOT a natural formation.
    “”Coral reefs are formed only on hard surfaces. But during the study we found that the formation at Adam’s Bridge is nothing but boulders of coral reefs. When we drilled for investigation, we found that there was loose sand two to three metres below the reefs. Hard rocks were found several metres below the sand.

    Such a natural formation is impossible. Unless somebody has transported them and dumped them there, those reefs could not have come there. Some boulders were so light that they could float on water. Apparently, whoever has done it, has identified light (but strong) boulders to make it easy for transportation. Since they are strong, they can withstand a lot of weight. It should be preserved as a national monument.”"
    See http://specials.rediff.com/news/2007/jul/31slid2.htm

    The most unfortunate thing is that we doubt our own culture in the name of being ‘scientific’.
    Mahabharatha was thought to be a myth till city of Dwaraka was unearthed under the seas of Gujarat. Vedic rivers were thought to be mythological till satellite images showed the now dried up mighty saraswati river that once flowed in north India. See http://hitxp.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/saraswati-darshan-the-revelation-of-sarasvati-river/
    Same about Ramsethu now.

    Even if it is natural, given the fact that it is associated with the sentiments of the majority in this country, does it make sense to destroy it? Hindus also believe that lord shiva resides in mount Kailash. Tomorrow if somebody says let us destroy this mountain to build a trade route between India and China, will you go for it saying there is no proof that shiva stays there so lets destroy it?

    The marine life in the gulf of mannar is protected under the wildlife protection act of 1972, and yet the project has been approved without getting environmental clearance from the concerned departments!! How can anybody call this ‘scientific’?

    See what those who want this bridge to be destroyed say. “”it is natural and not man made”"!, even if for a moment we agree that it is natural, so what? they say “”since it is natural, its ok for us to destroy it”"!
    What a cruel human attitude towards nature! As if natural things exist only for humans to destroy it. Which is why there is so much of pollution in the world today, for we dont care about nature. Isnt it our duty to protect nature, especially beauties like this? Any other country in the world with this type of structure would have converted it into a tourist spot.

    While the western researchers are trying to find archaealogical evidences about where the mythical city of Troy, land of Atlantis etc existed, we in India are debating about the structures being natural or man made, without any proper research. Has any of these ‘scientific’ minded people here, ever spoken about first doing a complete scientific research in the depths of the seas here before going ahead with its destruction. They simply DECLARE it to be natural. The ASI of India which never conducted any research on it saying it does not come under its jurisdiction, files an affidavit in the court saying its natural! See
    http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/49197/did-lord-ram-exist–asi-never-studied-ram-setu.html

    Finally, its for the readers to decide whether what I wrote makes any sense or not.

  • http://maduraikkaran.blogspot.com maduraikkaran

    Hi gurudev

    It is surprising and disheartening that you brush aside those issues which are affecting the poor delta farmers’ survival as trivial and politically complicated.

    Is it why the “Team hindutva” is complicating the issue by relating the tidal sand bar to Ram, so that it will never resolved?

    Interestingly I read an article about shoals and giving you the link here for you perusal and comments.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoals

    Point to be noted: I born as a Hindu, and brought up as a secular rationalist and not an atheist.
    lovingly yours
    maduaraikkaran

  • maduraikkaran

    Hi Gurudev

    Happy new year to you!!!!

    It is surprising and disheartening that you are brushing away those issues (which are affecting the respective state delta formars’ daily life & survaival) as trivial and politically complicated.

    Is it why you are politisizing and complicating the Sethu issue by relating it to RAM, so that it will never get resolved?
    Is it why you people are proviking the general public in the name of God?
    (Point to be stressed here: I born as a hindu, brought up as a seculer rationalist and not an atheist.)
    Interstingly i happened to read an artcile relating to shols (tidel sand bars). i have given the links below. I request you to kindly put in your view points here.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoals

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:WayaWayasewa.jpg

    lovingly yours
    maduraikkaran

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    Thanks vijay and Thekkadath for the links…

    Maduaraikkaran, these disputes are relatively simple issues to resolve, unfortunately the politicians have made it complicated for their own benefits!

  • Thekkadath
  • maduaraikkaran

    dear Gurudev

    It is quite interesting article . It shows that you are a subject specilaist.

    If you have posted any of these topics please highlight and give me the link

    1. Mullaiperiyar issue
    2. Kaveri water dispute.

    I thing these two are the pressing problems of Tamilnsu people.

    Waiting to see your views on these.

  • vijay

    http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1136422

    “”The controversial Adam’s bridge off the Tamil Nadu coast could be “”man-made”" and has an “”echo in the ancient mythological epic, the Ramayana”", says a government publication tabled in parliament last week – a development that could put the Congress-led government in a piquant spot.”"

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    Thanks a lot Shweta!
    Yes, truth doesnt need any believers, if somebody doesnt believe in the truth, then they are the losers, not the truth ;)

  • shweta

    Hi Guru,
    Must say this is an excellent one. Such great compilation. Your work really needs to be spread all over. And, for the people who still think Indian Ancient texts are not truth, shake your minds, read the facts written here and many other proofs available on net and then judge again… YES!, It is Truth.

    Thanks Guru, once again.

  • Sriram

    Hello all,

    I have written my opinion twice here. However by writing comments/opinions will not save RAMA SETHU, so please Register yourself with Vishwa Hindu Parishath (VHP) so we all Hindus can fight for the GOD’s right.

    Jai Sriram

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    Very well said Sriram..

  • Sriram

    When the Sethusamudram project was revived, for the nth time, environmentalists expressed their concern that it would cost far more than the project documents suggested. The dredging costs have been highly underestimated, many say. Their concerns came out of recent scientific literature that suggested that the annual sediment load in the Palk Bay causes a sea depth reduction of 1 cm per year.
    Further studies have even suggested that the sedimentation rate could, in fact, be 25-75 times higher! But, every new document of the Sethusamudram Ship Canal Project (SSCP) seemed to ignore all literature after 1989. Not surprisingly, many of the more recent scientific papers suggested that the sedimentation siltation rates in the Palk Bay and surrounding areas were far higher than what was earlier believed.
    Like the literature review of the SSCP project documents that stops at 1989, the hydrodynamic modelling studies measure only ‘normal’ wind speeds (up to 31.5km/h) to calculate various other parameters like sedimentation and siltation. Cyclones are a common occurrence on the south Tamil Nadu coast.
    An analysis of the Global Tropical and Extra Tropical Cyclone Climatic Atlas (GTECCA) by experts validates this position by highlighting that the project area is visited by a cyclone with wind speeds greater than 64.82 km/h every three years. Again, it seems ingenious that the project documents could ignore the cyclones and its effect on siltation in the SSCP area. The method followed in the project documents helps create a project that significantly underestimates the amount of dredging required — both capital and maintenance — by using data that allows it to peg the cost to around Rs 2,500 crore. In fact, the project documents go so far as to suggest that the Palk Bay region of the canal will not need any maintenance dredging, ignoring scientific studies of the last 15years! This structure of the project documents is important as the practice in India is that once a project is approved, it stays approved. While academics and scientists might come in post-hoc to analyse the cost over-runs that have taken place, the current project approval system does not allow for a review (leading to rejection) of the project due to significant cost increases. This makes the pre-project phase the only viable time to protest. Even at this time, project documents seem to be selective in their use of data to support favourable conclusions. The reality of SSCP could be dredging contractors delight as it will probably be necessary to dredge for posterity in the entire project area, making it an excellent method of spending government money indefinitely. For opposing SSCP on legitimate and rational grounds, many environmentalists were branded ‘anti-national’. They could not understand the economics of the project and the significant benefits for shipping that SSCP would bring about. The benefits the documents said would be for 70% of the ships in the world with draughts less than 10 m. But the Paradip and Jawharlal Nehru Port Trust ports do not seem to believe them as they are deepening their draughts to 16 m and 15 m respectively. Nor does the reality that 62% of the bulk cargo carried today is carried in vessels of 60,000 DWT and above! A KPMG report on India’s shipping says that “the trend has been that the maximum size of the bulk carriers has increased steadily from 75,000 DWT in 1970s to approximately 183,000 DWT in 2005”. The project proponents argue that bulk cargo will only be a small part of the cargo that uses the canal. It will be petroleum and tankers that would use the canal. DPR, chooses however, to ignore the fact that most very large crude carriers (VLCCs) and tankers in ballast (when empty) have draughts that are in excess of 12 m. Even most of the coastal tanker traffic consists of what is called LR-I size tankers which load to about 11.1 metres draught, and hence will not be able to transit the canal (which allows only 10m draught).Rational arguments and scientific method do not support the conclusions drawn by the project documents. The shipping purpose as highlighted by many, including ET earlier, is very limited as it benefits just 30% of those the project documents claim it will benefit — those using coast-to-coast shipping. On the job creation front, never mind that a large part of the jobs created will be on dredging, which, in addition to be an extremely limited creator of jobs, is practically a monopoly of non-Indian firms? And as a Port Authority official said, thanks to the Dredging Corporation of India being so involved in the Sethusamudram project, many other ports have been forced to start hiring foreign contractors for maintenance dredging in the ports. The other benefit of the project is in the development of the ‘most backward’ areas of Tamil Nadu and the unmeasurable creation of jobs through the development of ancillary industries. The livelihood job losses of fishermen do not seem important enough for them to be quantified in the detailed project report (DPR). What seems appropriate is a comment in response to an earlier article in ET on the public purpose of SSCP. A reader suggested that projects like SSCP cannot be justified on the basis of such ‘baniya economics’. The public purpose was so mystically large that it was impossible for us to quantify the benefit or justify a project of such national importance! It is then when you I understood! Projects like this are after all a matter of faith — you believe them to be so beneficial despite all data suggesting otherwise. It is important to reject all the negatives and costs of the project like high sedimentation rates, low draught, limited use for coastal and non-coastal vessels and just blindly believe that the benefits are greater than the costs. From now on, there is no need for expensive consultants, project reports, techno-economic feasibility studies and environmental impact assessments. It is just sufficient to believe that a project is a good one! It’s all a matter of faith…isn’t it?

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    He wont apologize :)
    There is no point in trying to argue with those who are determined not to get convinced…

  • Sriram

    We all need to understand one thing here,every body is in agreement with the Ramasethu as an man made bridge, however this is been argued in the Political way which is not right. CM of Tamilnadu Karunanidhi is not doing right as everyone knows that he is making this issue for his political benefits. CM should understand that he living in Hindustan and Tamilnadu is in Hindustan, he better respect the values of Hindus as 75% of Tamilnadu population is Hindus. CM should apologize all the Hindus in the world.

  • JC Joshi

    Gurudev, I am glad you liked it.
    Who says ‘Sanatan Dharma’ is boring:-)
    Krishna however demands one to ‘surrender’ in the Creator. And there is no bar – of age, sex, caste, creed and so on, – to do so, otherwise Prahlad, Dhruva etc, wouldn’t have figured in the stories and ‘child prodigies’ wouldn’t have been seen today!

    Best Wishes to all ‘Hindus’, which actually refers to all humans, for essence of Indu (Sanskrit), Moon (English), or la lune (French root word of lunatic), is housed in the head of all animals, and in a relatively higher proportion in elephant, the animal that has the most evolved memory and whose head was attached to Ganesha’s, and therefore in all human forms too, symbolically as the essence of planet Mars… And it believably is the cause of different types of ‘mental disorders’ in all humans who have apparently arrived on earth for ‘treatment’ as per the ‘wise ancient Hindus’ who didn’t get affected by it through ‘Yogic exercises’ that lead to zero thoughts…and so on…
    Hari ananta, Hari katha ananta!

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    Very well said Joshiji :)

  • JC Joshi

    Gurudev Namaskara!
    “”Bazar se gujra hoon khareedar nahin hoon, etc!”"

    A passerby, an old man, saw a young man smoking a cigarette in front of a grand mansion. He asked him how many cigarettes he consumed per day, and so on, and worked out the expenditure he had thus incurred on smoking only till that date. And finally concluded that had he saved all the infructuous expenditures, he could perhaps have one day been the owner of the edifice behind him!

    After hearing his long worded computations, the young man asked the non-smoker old man if he owned that building. The answer to the question obvioiusly was ‘no’!

    The young man then informed him that he himself was the owner of it!

    An Urdu poet, about everyone attempting without the knowledge of the language, to do ‘shayari’ (that is, writing poetry) said to the effect, that it isn’t a grass that can be eaten by every donkey!
    ‘Hindu Mythology’, similarly, informs each human being that he/ she, in fact, is the owner of the entire universe himself/ herself! But, to realize it, It is a matter of use of the ‘Third’ or ‘Mind’s eye’ duly corrected ‘for achieving 6/6 vision of the inner self’!

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    Sen
    The controversy is not just about religion.
    As stated in http://hitxp.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/sethusamudram-an-indepth-analysis/

    * Economically this project doesnt make any sense
    * There are security risks in this project
    * It will cause natural destruction
    * It will snatch away the livelihood of thousands of people
    * Destroy a heritage site. Partial destruction is still a destruction!
    Today its 300 meters, tomorrow another 300 to widen the channel, than another 300 to allow parking, another 300 to build some pathway, things simply keep adding on.. you cant have a heritage site and modern construction activity sitting together in one place

    Who said “”nature has destroyed most of the bridge”" ?
    The sea levels during the days of Ramayana was lower than today, and today because of the higher sea level the bridge is under water, and there is coral growth on top of it. Thats all.
    There are many underwater wonders around the world which are being used as tourist spots by setting up underwater systems for people to see these sites. Can we develop such a system here.

    Yes this might be a bit late. But better late than never, isnt it? All these things had to be done by the congress led governments and the ASI. But they never did it!!

    You said “”We learn that 3/4 th of the Rs 2400 crore project is completed ( nearly 1800 crore of taxpayers money already spent)”". I dont know from where you got these figures. Can you please quote the source.
    If this figure is true, then I can bet that most of the money would have been swallowed already. Just because the destruction has already started, you are suggesting to complete the destruction!!!

    I am glad that you quoted about ASWAN dam.
    Similar to this ASWAN dam project, the original canal proposed while BJP led NDA was in power, was to build Sethusamudram canal without harming any part of Ramsethu.
    Now why the hell did this stupid UPA government change the alignment and is hell bent on destroying the Ramsethu?
    Given the fact that the new alignment which destroys the Sethu (which definitely is not like how ASWAN dam was built), is economically more costly! Please see http://hitxp.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/ramsetu-nda-vs-upa/

    Finally, as you said “”by saying Ram lives in our heart and so we can destroy Ram sethu”", going by this argument of yours we can become too materialistic and money minded because this argument allows to destroy every single cultural heritage or religious site in the country, because feelings lives in our heart anyway :)
    Thats not the way how people look at it, else nobody would have gone out on religious piligrimages, be it Mecca or Madina or Kashi or Varanasi.

  • sen

    Hi,

    What I was trying to say was,

    1. Its not ok to destroy some structure which is being worshipped everyday by millions (eg Temples on the Land). It should be ok to me if only 300 mts of a 37 km long bridge which many of us didnt bother or look at even so far, is dredged for the sake of a new passage.
    2. Anyways Nature (God) has already destroyed most of the bridge
    3. Its a Govt we elected (although I voted for the Opposition) that is doing the work ( which includes educated officials/planners who concieved this plan) and not to be compared with Thieves who plunder others property.
    Regds,
    Sen
    :-) on a lighter note, my granmas legacy lives in my heart and not in the Gold she wore, same way Ram lives in my heart and not in any bridge that he built

  • http://indiatemple.blogspot.com Kavitha Kalyan

    Hi Sen,

    You sound like you are ok with the thief ransacking your house is doing a good job! And in the case he leaves behind a gold chain, you will be thrilled and celebrate its safety that at least that didnt get stolen. And its not like you were wearing your gold or counting your money every day!! And then you realize that gold left behind by your grand mother’s mother was part of the loot. And all you have is probably a piece of that legacy left!!!

    Is it really ok??? What are you trying to say?

    Regds
    Kavitha

  • sen

    We learn that 3/4 th of the Rs 2400 crore project is completed ( nearly 1800 crore of taxpayers money already spent) what is the point in stopping progress at the cost of 300 meters of heritage , we have the remaining 37 km of the bridge intact to celebrate and worship. (Which we didnt do all these years)

    Out of more than a lakh pilgrims visiting Rameshwaram every year, we are not sure if even 1000 of them took the trouble to visit this ancient spiritual site for any worship all these years? Thanks to the controversy over this project we are now awakened to the importance of this bridge which we can anyway continue to worship or offer as a Tourist attraction after the Canal work is completed.

  • sen

    About preserving ancient heritage and Development in other countries, I can remember of the ASWAN dam in Egypt which threatened to submerge the ancient temples of Nubia and how UNESCO stepped in to preserve these sites and also the DAM was constructed .
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aswan_High_Dam

    http://www.umich.edu/~kelseydb/Exhibits/AncientNubia/JPEGs/Photos/61.7.619.jpg

  • http://indiatemple.blogspot.com Kavitha Kalyan

    Hi Gurudev,

    A very clearly written article indeed. I have taken the liberty of linking up your article to my blog as we are talking about the same subject with similar sentiments.

    Just wanted to inform you.
    My blog is: http://indiatemple.blogspot.com

    Warm regards,
    Kavitha Kalyan

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    The government hasnt revealed anything about the economics of the project.. except for some investigation by news channels like CNN-IBN
    Sometime back the government said that machinery worth 4 crore was damaged while dredging the seas.

    Yes, the current proposal is to break the bridge for about 300 meters. But there is more to it than just the mentioned technical width. Any other country with such a wonderful natural/cultural heritage site would have preserved it and converted it into a tourist spot. Please see http://hitxp.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/sethusamudram-an-indepth-analysis/

    Yes, it is on the visible portion of the bridge, but currently the activities on the visible portion is stopped due to the intervention of the supreme court.

  • Sen

    Hi, Appreciate the article and the debates in it. Do we have info on some of the questions that arise on this subject like
    1. How much of Tax Payers money has already gone into this project ?
    2. Does the project involve destruction of the entire Ramsethu bridge, or only a portion of it? Somewhere I heard that it is only 300 meters of the 37 Km stretch which is being destructed ?
    3. Is the dredging being done on the Visible portion of the bridge or an already submerged portion ?

    Appreciate your good work and interested to read your other works.

  • http://dictinfo.com Selva

    Hi,

    I appreciate article and the research done to publish it.
    However, I do not endorse the views of many in this thread claiming the epics defy the scientific facts that the naturally formed coral reefs make us to believe there is a bridge.

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    Pruthviraj
    This blog is to share my thoughts and any information I have which I feel is interesting/worth sharing with the rest of the world. And also to encourage discussions and debates as long as it doesnt become abusive/offensive, so that we can also know each other’s perspective, learn new things from others and widen our world views. A quest to know things and to search for the truth.

    Right from my childhood, I was always interested in the science/technology of ancient texts/people, because that was how the environment in which I was brought up was.. where I used to be told about the ancient Indian science and mathematics, about ayurveda, yoga, rishis being scientists/researchers, the wonders of Mahabharatha like the war itself, the reference by oppenheimer to nuclear bombs, the wonders created by the architect Maya in Indraprastha, pushpaka vimana of Ramayana, about the great amount of knowledge in the vedas etc

    These interests reached a new height after I read a wonderful research book in Kannada on Mahabharatha called Mahasamparka, where the author tries to investigate into the science and technology in Mahabharatha and the historical timeline of the story.

    The closest to the original sanskrit texts could be found online at
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/mbs/index.htm
    and
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rys/index.htm

  • bhoomika

    I think there is no difference between karunanidhi and the talibans (both tend to destruct/destroy artifacts in the name of religion).

  • Arun

    @pandian…

    Hinduism is a religion, hindu holybooks teaches one How to be a good human being ? It dont put any restrictions on your day to day life. It teaches you to live your life healthy, and respect others and their sentiments

  • http://www.sridhar.in Sridhar Pandurangiah

    My job requires me to take frequent trips to Colombo. The air corridor is incidentally over the palk strait and people can see the “”Ram Sethu”" (Adam’s bridge) from the aircraft i.e about 37,000 ft above sea level. Believe me the view is breathtaking and you can see the bridge like formation, the same thing thats in the photo you have posted. I am not sure of my fellow passenger but every time I fly over this sector I just gape for a full 5 minutes at this structure. A couple of minutes later we land at Colombo. I do the same on my return trips and make it a point not to take the evening flights.

  • ursri

    A piece of good joke from forwarded mail.
    ***********************************************
    Subject: A BRIDGE TOO FAR

    The Lord surveyed the Ram Setu and said “”Hanuman, how diligently and strenuously you and your vanara sena had built this bridge several centuries back. It is remarkable that it has withstood the ravages of the climatic and geographical changes over centuries. It is indeed an amazing feat especially considering the fact that a bridge at Hyderabad built by Gammon using latest technology collapsed the other day even before they could stick the posters on its pillars.”"

    Hanuman with all humility spoke “”Jai Sri Ram, it is all because of your grace. We just scribbled your name on the bricks and threw them in the sea and they held. No steel from TISCO or cement from Ambuja or ACC was ever used. But Lord, why rake up the old issue now.”"

    Ram spoke “”Well, Hanuman some people down there want to demolish the bridge and construct a canal. The contract involves lot of money and lot of money will be made. They will make money on demolition and make more money on construction. “”

    Hanuman humbly bowed down and said “”Why not we go down and present our case”"

    Ram said “”Times have changed since we were down there. They will ask us to submit age proof and we don’t have either a birth certificate or school leaving certificate. We traveled mainly on foot and some times in bullock carts and so we don’t have a driving license either. As far as the address proof is concerned the fact that I was born at Ayodhya is itself under litigation for over half a century, If I go in a traditional attire with bow and arrow, the ordinary folks may recognize me but Arjun Singh may take me to be some tribal and, at the most, offer a seat at IIT under the reserved category. Also, a God cannot walk in dressed in a three-piece suit and announce his arrival. It would make even the devotees suspicious. So it is dilemma so to say.”"

    “”I can vouch for you by saying that I personally built the bridge.”"

    “”My dear, Anjani putra, it will not work. They will ask you to produce the lay-out plan, the project details, including financial outlay and how the project cost was met and the completion certificate. Nothing is accepted without documentary evidence in India. You may cough but unless a doctor certifies it, you have no cough. A pensioner may present himself personally but the authorities do not take it as proof. He has to produce a life-certificate to prove that he is alive. It is that complicated.”"

    “”Lord can’t understand these historians. Over the years you have given darshan once every hundred years to saints like Surdas, Tulsidas, Saint Thyagaraja, Jayadeva, Bhadrachala Ramdas and even Sant Tukaram and still they disbelieve your existence and say Ramayana is a myth. The only option, I see, is to re-enact Ramayana on earth and set the government records straight once for all.”"

    Lord smiled “”It isn’t that easy today. Ravan is apprehensive that he may look like a saint in front of Karunanidhi. I also spoke to his mama Mareecha, who appeared as a golden deer to tempt Sita maiyya when I was in the forest and he said that he won’t take a chance of stepping on earth as long as Salman Khan is around.”"
    ***********************************************

  • ursri

    India was self-reliant. They were more spiritual inclined, efforts were team based and for the country than individualistic material gains . Since Britishers were favour of their supporters during draught and calamities along with induced divisions, true indian were left helpless. So couple of generations memory was erased about true goal. India is just no more middle class strugglers for mere bread & butter but they are good cosumers. Right now they only need clear their vision and move ahead in positive progress as set in ancient days itself.
    Also thanks to the media and info accessibility, there are efforts to retain our values back.

  • Pruthviraj

    @ Gururaj…i agree with wht u have to say….other thn tht…india is a country made of middle class ppl….our life starts and ends at earning bread n butter….thrz no time or scope for these EXTRA CURRICULA ACTIVITIES. No offence meant…but this is the truth.

  • http://smartpandian.com Pandian

    Vineesh,

    Please, dont compare Hinduism with Muslim,
    Hinduism cant be compared with any other religion.

    I feel that Muslims/Christians stick more to their holy books.
    but Hinduism is not just Holy books, its more than that.

    /////

  • Vineesh

    just one question.. .

    suppose it was in “”Khuran”" tho HOly Book of Muslim,
    do you thing anything will be happening to that bridge??

    if you dont belive its up to you, but dont denie that you belong to a culture that nourish of our values which world looks in to when you say you are an INDIAN.. .
    for that you need to travel.. . c thge country which has Bar cultures then only you will know.. .

  • Gururaj

    I sort of agree with Pruthviraj. Of course we have lot of ancient knowledge but it is no easy task trying to read them , understand and make meaning out of it. In this age of convenience why would one be bothered at all as long as we are sort of comfortable that modernity is bringing in? where is the drive coming from and why shld there be?

    just my thoughts.

  • Pruthviraj

    I went through your compilation, ppls question n your answers to them. It indeed creates interest. I mean some one like me, who is happy with his job n business, is setteld in life, is spiritual but not religious, din’t care to know about the history even in school days…SUDDENLY wants to read RAMAYANA and MAHABHARTA. You definetly deserve appreciation for your work.
    But is this like Independence day or Republic day…i mean…half of us realise that we are indians only on 15th of aug OR 26th of Jan…The only patriotism i’ve seen in REAL life is ppl watching a indo-pak one day match or recently the twenty-20 types. THATS WHAT PATRIOTISM HAS BECOME FOR TODAYS YOUTH.
    Is this Blog created to enlighten ppl about the Indian heritage(saving Ram sethu) OR the Hindu religion(we need to save this too)??
    Its good to see that you’ve taken out time and put in lots of effort, it has come out well. Would you be able to tell me from where i can have access to Ramayana and Mahabharta (The original ones)…do bookshops have it?? when you talk about the war and planes being used in it….even about it happening in space…do you have some article available or finding or evidence…just curious to know.
    Once again appreciate your effort. I usually dont take out time to write or read blogs, but this one just pulled me. and i’ve written only after seeing that your are open to feedback. thanks to person who dropped the URL in my ndtv mail. stay blessed and pls answer Laxmi’s question.
    Would definetly read your other stuff too.

  • jaimini

    I have to concede that Sunita has become a Muslim … certainly makes me want to learn aboutt this faith that so many seem to follow and yet we know so little about. I hear that Adam (the first man) was also a Muslim as were all other prophets. My friends we have been misled Hinduism is worshiping stone!

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    koolGuy

    Yes thoughts have to be converted into action. May be the first step would be to educate the masses about these facts. Many dont know about the real facts. So an awareness campaign is required by spreading the message. Then ensure that the political parties that are pseudo secular and those that are communal and those that have no respect for the people’s sentiments are voted out of power in the next elections.

    We can take it forward from there :)

    Harsh shastri
    I really appreciate your spirit. It is this spirit that has ensured the survival of the ancient Indian culture and civilization even today.

    ursri,

    An excellent one! Yes, congress has moved from ‘Hey Ram’ of Mahatma Gandhi to today’s ‘No Ram’!

    Oemar,
    Yes, it is the votebank politics of these parties that is slowing down the development of this country. They simply created unnecessary controversies and then blame each other to get votes. But behind the scenes they all are one and the same.
    Yes “”State should never interfere in people’s faith”". Government is for the people, not the other way round. This is India, not China.

    Arun,
    Yes the country has to awake. If the people of a country say “”who cares”", then the country has no future.

    Ravi,
    Yes, will try to share the hymns which describe how the bridge was constructed. I have provided one example in this article.

    Laxmi,
    A good one :)

  • lakshmi

    good article. Now we are coming to know about such constructions by looking satilite pictures. but how come valmiki imagined this ?

  • Ravi

    In Valmiki Ramayana, materials used in this bridge is also detailed,the compitency of personal also discussed, I think that each sloka can be elaborately discussed. Praciticality of constructing the bridge was amazing explained in A TV show. If possible please share it .

  • ARUN

    The facts indeed correct .Every indian as to be aware of it .This is the right time for every indian to throw away the selfish politicians/officials……My dear people awake,awake.

  • http://oemar.wordpress.com Oemar

    Well I would say that destruction of Ram Sethu is not good from many perspectives: [1] Scientific – As you already told us about Tsunamis and the threat to Kerala beaches [2] Heritage – If Taj, Red Fort or Hawa Mahal are standing in way of some major highway project, do we raze them to the ground? I dont think so, there are some things that go beyond just economic development… and that called a rich heritage and past. [3] Religious – State should never interfere with people’s personal faith. Everyone has the right to believe in what he/she wants. We can prove that Budhha existed, but we cant prove for certain that he DID get enlightenment. How do we prove that Jesus was resurrected? Or for that matter, that god exists at all? All this said and done, I believe this controversy is a simple vote-bank game these idiots like to play.

  • ursri

    Actually Congress and Government organization should not hang Mahathma Gandhiji’s photo. Gandhiji chanted and preached about Lord Rama to one and all. His last words were “”Hay Ram”" when shot dead. According to current Congress Govenment , Mahathma Gandhiji’s views are basesless and all those struggle for independence with faith in Lord Rama is stupidity.

    If Congress can explain the blunder of Gandhiji’s belief in Lord Rama without evidence, let them not say their party is based/roots from Gandhiji.

    Personally I feel such question about God from fools or non believers are essential. This would make world realize the Truth (again and again) though it is waste of energy to prove God’s existence ofcourse hampers progress in the process.

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  • harsh shastri

    JAI SHRI RAM
    Hi Dev I appreciate your resarch and work well done.
    As i believe in god i m assured that even though our govt or all govt of world come togeather and try to destroy the RAMASETU but they cant destroy the faith within us and I promise you if RAMASETU is tried to be destroyed we sanatani will stand for it to see that these foolish people dont do any silly activity and with the grace of god the worlds greatest and oldest religion (way of living)will get its glory back,may god bless all.
    JAI HIND

  • http://paneerkadhai.blogspot.com san

    Showshow insane govt has become for few dollars..its destryoing its own heritage.

  • koolGuy

    I really liked the thoughts put in this article. I appreciate that atleast you have come forward & expressed your views, thoughts unlike all us wiht a typical who cares atttitude.

    May be one thing if I could suggest for the articles put forth here is How do We put the thoughts to action ? where do we go from here ?

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    Manu
    Unlike any other religion/culture, the vedic teachings/hinduism has no founder, prophet or start date and so is without any beginning. It is the Sanathana Dharma which is eternal.

    The vedas say “”The one that has no beginning how can it have an end”"!

  • Manu

    Good work!!
    But I wonder how it will educate miilions of Hindus who are satisfied with their monthly salaries.
    Unless they are awoken, Hinduism will be destroyed like Ram Sethu.

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    anonymous,
    As for the link you provided, my response is that if the congress continues with its stupid ideas in this manner, India being the only country in the world where the sentiments of majority are not being respected, a news item in the not too far future will be something like this
    ‘The government of India tells the Supreme Court that there is no historical evidence of the existence of any congress party in India’.

    As for the comment that you saw on rediff, you said that it read “”Sunita Williams ( First Indian woman who went on moon)”"
    First of all Sunita Williams is an American not an Indian.
    But more than that, when did she go to moon? :)
    She went to space, not to moon.

    Silly people making silly comments without even reading news properly/probably not knowing the difference between space and moon! My suggestion is ignore such comments, dont even give a damn to it, we have better things to do in life than to respond to these maniacs.

    Never argue with a fool, people may not know the difference ;)

  • anonymous

    Hi gurudev,

    Please take a look at this
    http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/sep/12ram.htm

    Also there is a comment in the article by some one, i have pasted below

    Sunita-As received
    by K Khan on Sep 12, 2007 06:48 PM | Hide replies

    Sunita Williams ( First Indian woman who went on moon) accepted “”ISLAM”" Masha Allah, bcoz when they were on the moon, they saw towards EARTH, the entire EARTH looked dark, but 2 places on the EARTH looked like SPARKS (Roshni). They were shocked to see that and saw them with the help of telescope and came to know that those two places were “” MECCA “” and “”MADINA”" Masha Allah. Then they decided that after reaching to earth they’ll accept “”ISLAM”". Thats y they reached safely. So be proud to a muslim and forward it to all like fire

    Is this true…u have any idea ???????

    Thanks

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    its about destroying the old bridge to make the sea deeper and navigable to allow movement of commercial shipments in the region..

  • anonymous

    i thought sethu samudram project is also of creating a new bridge by destroying the old bridge :)

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    anonymous
    they are not contradictory, actually I think you have misunderstood the terms ramsethu and sethusamudram.
    Ramsethu is an existing ancient bridge construction in the sea, and sethu samudram project is a new government project proposed to destroy this ram sethu.

    Ram sethu prevented the tsunami in the eastern side of the seas from reaching the western shores of kerala to a large extent, and destroying this ram sethu now would increase the tsunami risk on the western shores, because they will now be exposed to sea threats from the eastern seas!

    oh yes, it doesnt look like an impossible task of construction, but considering the fact that it seems to be a construction, and also considering the construction dating/legend … it makes sense to preserve it for future research and also as a heritage site, rather than destroying it for monetary gains!!!

    well, the nuclear bombs on hiroshima and nagasaki didnt do any harm to tokyo :)
    Mahabharatha war took place in northern India, and was probably limited to the battle fields.. India is a vast country and this ram sethu is in deep south.. so it wasnt affected!

    But I also think that the bridge might have been affected a bit due to rising water levels in the sea. We are not sure that the bridge looked exactly the same way it looks today, when it was constructed. It is quite obvious that it should have been much more firm when it was built, and a good part of it might as well be washed out today over these thousands of years!

    During the ramayana and mahabharatha period, water levels were even lower in the seas of the world, as it was just end of the previous glacial age I think, and cities like dwaraka were submerged by sea only after the end of mahabharatha war when the water levels increased world wide. Dwaraka ruins are today inside the Arabian sea on the shores of Gujarat.
    So I think when the bridge of ram sethu was built, the water levels in the sea were even much lower…

    And no, I wont get offended by questions, because I strongly believe that questions are the only way for more accurate answers :)

  • anonymous

    “”Note that as per the ancient texts, the bridge was said to have been built not as a permanent structure to connect the two lands, but only to serve one single two-way journey for an invading army from India into Srilanka.”"

    then how come the bridge is still there and did not get washed of after the nuclear war of mahabharatha as you state it ?

    From all the above questions i have raised
    I am not trying to deny any facts and accuracies of ancient texts or any other thing…..I just want to know more info. if possible…

    Please don’t feel offended by my questions…

  • anonymous

    But now on looking at the photograph and realizing that it is a shallow sea and not a narrow straight, it doesn’t really seem like an impossible task to do one such construction….

    can you please explain above in detail..if you can ?? :(

  • anonymous

    u said building sethu samudram would increase threata from tsunami (According to one Oceanographer, the construction of the Sethu Samudram Channel may also increase the risk of tsunamis on the coasts of South India as this shallow water has been protecting the calm sea on this side of the )
    …but on the other hand u said rama sethu saved the shores from tsunami (It has to be noted that this narrow straight and shallow waters and Ram Sethu is what saved the shores of Kerala from a major disaster during the December 2004 Tsunami!)
    they both look contradictory…?

  • Paresh

    Excellent article.

    When I first saw the photo published by NASA 6 years ago (I believe the pictures are from 1980′s), these were the some of the thoughts I had back then.

    This kind of scientific knowledge is much needed for the religious/spiritual culture of hindu community, which is ridiculed in western world as mythology.

    Also we have grown up reading stories of Raja Vikramaditya. Just recently came across an article that when Vikramaditya conquered mecca, the muslims of the mecca have his gift (I believe a bell or similar gift) in their religious place engraved with this historical fact that he conquered mecca that time and provided gift to the religious place.

    Another fact of the rural india making (or used to making) their huts from the cow dung. A recent scientific survey stated that cow dung has properties to absorb harmful sun rays and minimize skin cancer chances.

    Yug Shakti Gayatri parivar – Shri ram sharma aacharya used to create some scientific experiments to prove the reasons behind the ancient methods.

    The only regret I have despite belonging to such a great cultural background is that our ancestors didn’t build something monumental, and the fact that I am regreting it for the sake of many Indians who don’t realize the worth of their cultural background. Of course the ramsetu is monumental but we need more experiment to grab people’s attention and shut the naysayers.

    Looking forward to the TV series: What the ancients knew – India. (google it for link)

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  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    Sarath,

    Dev was another visitor of the site. I am Gurudev :)
    Well, yes, as of now there is a pending case in the court on a petition filed by Subramanya Swamy, the government is yet to respond to the objections raised by the petitioner.. the court has accepted the petition…

    At the same time experts have also suggested using a more narrow alternate channel which can be built in the same place without harming the bridge.. Infact this was the original proposal when the project was first initiated by the previous NDA government.. Then God knows why this UPA government changed the original project plan to destroy the bridge…

  • Sai Sarath

    @ Dev

    I stumbled across ur blog reading about the Vedic Time of Brahma and the Universe and found it extremely interesting. The work that went into each of ur blogs as i read seemed extremely diligent and elaborate. While I learn more (this is just the beginning) about our culture ppl like u stand an inspiration.

    So what action is being taken to preserve the ancient bridge? What’s the follow up?

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    @Dev

    Yes you are right, hinduism has never had one upmanship…. nor will it ever have.. which is why it is so wonderful…
    unlike other religions, hinduism has no human founder.. nor has any one single person or organization ever been accepted as the head of hinduism…
    The word sanathana dharma itself means eternal values and culture …

  • Dev

    Also .. just to add one more point. I have liked your article on Hindu Concept of God and false aryan invasion theoty.. These are very well written articles.

    Just the other day I was watching a debate between Dr. Zakir Naik and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar on Concept of God in Islam and Hinduism.

    Firstly, I feel there is no need of such religious debates. We all forget the basic point while going in such debates is that it is not the religion but it is GOD that is GREAT. We try proving or rather compelling out beliefs / faiths on others claiming what we believe is RIGHT and every thing else is wrong. This ONE-UPMANSHIP should be eradicated. Its a disease.

    Thanks!

  • Dev

    Great work again … We need such awareness among Hindus backed by thorough scientific reasoning.

    Even if there is no science behind any practice in Hinduism, we need not prove it to others about why, who, how in our religion. Confidence is the key and utmost faith in what our beliefs are.

    There are non-hindus who simply write off hinduism as a religion based on complete myths which is NEVER the case.

    All we need is more of work done by you.

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    @bachodi

    If Ramayana is an epic, then so is Mahabharatha and all Puranas! Mahabharatha talks about the continued chain of Kings from Ramayana! Mahabharatha is definitely not an epic, it is history well documented. My belief is that these are well documented history, and I am talking about Valmiki Ramayana and Vyasa Bharatha, not later modified versions of other writers…

    All geographical locations mentioned in Ramyanana, starting from Ayodhya to Lanka exist even today! Kishkinda exists in Karnatata, Dandakaranya mentioned in Ramayana was ancient south India which was a forest.. The bridge is there.. Himalayas are there.. More importantly, the structure of documenting history, where unlike a story writing, things are mentioned in detail, the planetary positions, etc, indicate that it is history being documented!!

    Remember that when Krishna dies, it is as per the promise he made to Vali in Ramayana as Rama!

  • http://bachodi.wordpress.com/ bachodi

    Still i feel Ramayana is an epic .. not history

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    @Kaushik
    Yes you are right. They used machinery. It is not like how they show in the TV serials.
    Also, even the wars it was not bow and arrow fighting. It was advanced star trek like war fare where war also took place in space!!
    It was not elephants and horses that pulled chariots! These were actual planes / space fighters etc. It was not that for instance one such chariot had 20 horses. It actually meant that was a 20 horse power vehicle! Similarly when elephants were referred it means that many elephant power vehicle!!

  • http://www.hitxp.com/ Gurudev

    still ??..

  • http://bachodi.wordpress.com/ bachodi

    Wow wonderful compilation .. but still..

  • http://trivia.blogdrive.com kaushik

    yeah, even i have heard of this that the bridge was formed using machinery. but often people beleive in what they see in movies and serials which show that a few vanaraas carry rocks manually. they usually dont try to explore the truth from original texts. the term ‘yantriah’ is very important here. this will also try to tell you that machinery to lift and move boulders was present at those days!!

  • http://stillthinkingblogs.blogspot.com Manish Chhetri

    Too good article… would like to read more stuff on hinduism and its relation to modern science and physics..