Comments on: Saraswati Darshan – The revelation of Sarasvati River

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 12:57:00 +0000

The term arya does not refer to a tribe or a section of the society nor is it of any cultural classification between sections of a society. Arya actually means a noble person, a person who follows morals and dharma in life. Anarya refers to the opposite of Arya. For instance in Ramayana (which predates the drying up of Saraswati River by thousands of years) Ravana calls himself an arya, Sugriva says he is an arya and so is his brother vali, Ramayana itself refers to Rama as an Arya, and people generally refer to Ravana as anarya and so on.

So if the term Arya referred to a particular section of the society then this cross referring of each other as arya or anarya relatively is not possible. Hence Arya refers to noble and ignoble people.

Even in Mahabharata Pandavas call themselves anarya after killing Drona, in the kaurava’s assembly where Dushyasana disrobes Draupadi only Vidura is referred to as Arya because he was the only person in that assembly to protest against the act of Kauravas.

Even in Buddhist texts and in Pali language, those who follow the buddhist path are referred to as aryans and those who dont are called Anaryas. The four noble truths of Buddhism themselves are referred to as Chatvari Arya Satyaani – Chat=four Arya=Noble Satya=Truth
Even in Pali it is the same, cattaari ariyasaccaani

So I dont think the term Arya ever referred to one particular section of society as nobles and others as not. It was a mere general term used to refer to any pious person no matter which tribe, class he belonged to, or where he lived.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 11:02:00 +0000

Thanks for the additional information

By: Prakriit

Prakriit — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:56:00 +0000

The word Sanskrit has a political dimension which mean the “reformed culture” of the Aryans which means the nobles, the elites and the aristocrats of that time…so there was something before that….. This politics of “reformed culture” took shape when Saraswati River starts drying and the settlements on both the sides of the river immigrated more inland in search of another river and they found Indus in the west direction and Yamuna in the east direction. The process of this inland movement in both the side of Saraswati River is the politics of Bharat (great India). The political strategy was reformation process of the natural culture all around Bharat (great India). This natural culture has been named as Prakrit which means “nature” and they also have a language by the name Pali. This is one dimension of the conflict the other dimension is the conflict between the nobles on both side of the Saraswati River. When the inland nobles (Aryans) of both side of the Saraswati River were not at war they were busy politically moving inland and changing Prakrit culture in to Sanskrit culture and this process still continue.

By: Balubhaindave

Balubhaindave — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:25:00 +0000

As my knowledge of Sarswati river Is River Ghaggar, A geochemical constraints thought by school of Environmental Sciences, at Jawaharlal Nehru Uni, New Delhi,India , and conclusion arrieved for Ghaggar-Harappan Civilization was true river valley civilization ,In 3500BC IN THIS Saswati river mentioned sixty times in Rigved and this research by Dr,Wakankar also varified that the River Sarswati changed course at least four times before going completely dry around 1900 BC ,
Siddhpi-India is a ancient location still prooved that sarswati is flowing on sarface and Sadguru worshiped in water from 4AM to 7PM andlived 50 yrs in Siddhpith , after his death water deep burried in sand, So sand of this place having isotopic homogeneity of ancient sarswati from Himalayan orige.

By: Prakash Joshi

Prakash Joshi — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:16:34 +0000

The recent marine archaeology finds of the existence of this city, underwater in the Gulf of Khambhat (Cambay), Gujarat, dates to about 9500BP. The site went underwater about 9000 years ago with the geological changes at the end of the last Ice age.
The city would have been located in the greater Sarasvati river delta of the time.

Besides losing the waters of the Yamuna and Sutlej, there was a worldwide drought in 4200BP to 3900 BP period that sruck across a wide belt from southeren Europe to China. It ended the civilization of Egypt in old kingdom and Sumer-Akkad in Mesopotamia along with the Harappan.
To reinforce what Gurudev mentioned before, ” It was the drying up of the Saraswati river that caused the Harappan decline and the abandonment of its cities. To date, not a single Harappan site has been found to have been destroyed by outside invaders”

By: Gurudev

Gurudev — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:01:23 +0000

Both Dwarka and Saraswati river’s existence prove that Mahabharatha is a historical text and not mere mythology. Because the city of Dwaraka is well mentioned in Mahabharatha and so is the event of the drying up of the river Saraswati which is again mentioned in Mahabharatha.

By: Santosh Barat

Santosh Barat — Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:51:31 +0000

What is the relevance of the submerged city recently found near Dwarka recently. Does it prove that a city exixted on the banks of the river Saraswati around 4000 BC which got drowned because of rise in ocean level? Please let me know your answer.

By: Gurudev

Gurudev — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:06:03 +0000

Its really nice to read this. Waiting for the book. Please let us all know when it gets published. Motion as you said rightly is the true cause for the existence of this physical universe.

By: the real silencer

the real silencer — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:13:32 +0000

Hello,
I am the Real Silencer!Don’t take it some thing like ‘egoistic’….My findings is the source of the courage to call so myself.
According to my investigation/research results,ALL were Hindus and ALL are going to become Hindus or at least get true realisation!!!
Oneness IS the basic intrinsic nature of the whole humanty.Not just humanity but the whole of fauna and flora of the Earth!!!
It’s true their has been diversity/plurality..but it’s again natural diversity and the other has been our ignorance born diversity.
What is that ‘oneness’?What happened to it in the course of ‘motion’(not time!Actually there is no such thing called time…what exists is only motion and displacement) ……To know the answers to these questions,we need to know the very nature of motion.Motion has been studied a lot in it’s external surface by the modern science.No doubt about it.But what has been ignored (even since newton’s age) is as to what exactly this motion is?What dictates this motion and in what way?The very fundamental question of metaphysics!But there is no other way.Until and unless this fundamental question can be answered,there can not be any solution to this enigma.
It’s because we could not answer the fundamental question we came to conclusions like there is no absolute truth.It’s because of the same that there has been so much mess.The actual problem lies there and we have been finding the solution by some other means.That has been our journey.Naturally the problem multiplies or changes it’s forms instead of getting resolved.This has been the real cause of the whole mess.
The same problem could not be addressed by all those holy men/women who have been trying their best.Veda is no exception.All the saints are no exception.Except preaching belief systems either using logic or the other methods,the whole community of preachers/saints of all religions couldn’t go beyond.
Yes,but it’s not fault of their own….it’s not that they should not have tried…not that they are not great,sincere,sacred or holy.They did their best.But it’s also true that they couldn’t address the fundamental question of motion.It’s because Nature has been playing a kind of ‘hide and seek’ with us and always kept ‘the real thing’(the thing in it self’ of Kant) away from us.
All the preachings/efforts were made/required as we have been still in the ‘Neti Neti’ stage so far…Unless you have reached the stage of ‘Idam Idam” no substantial change can be expected.
But ultimately Nature had to yield to my almost 20 yr long efforts!Yes,I discovered as to what dictates motion! Yes,I did discover.A ‘proof of God!’-a sample proof- Testable by one and all..especially by modern science that has been almost every thing to ‘probability’ and ‘chance happening’.
This discovery is going to bring all humanity together….peace then descends.You know we all,irrespective of creed,religion,race etc., have been doing the SAME PRAYER that has been dictating motion and in that sense we are all ONE!!!
Yes,I belive,this discovery alone and nothing else, would lead to TRUE REALISATION!.People need proof to believe and to get truly enlightened.This discovery or proof is going to achieve what volumes of preachings could not achieve!
For me,with my discovery,it has been the end of the journey-From ‘Neti Neti’ to ‘Idam Idam’!!! and hence this should solve the very fundamental problem of philosophy and there by establishing eternal peace on Earth.
I going to make my findings public soon either via media or a book.
if you have any questions,I am available at:iamthe realsilencer@gmail.com
Regards

By: Gurudev

Gurudev — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:04:03 +0000

Vedic texts are the most ancient no doubt about it. In fact in one of the incidents in Mahabharatha Indra talks about Krittikas (Pleides) being at the summer solsitice and followed by the event of the fall of the star Abhijit (vega) to become the pole star – the event of which was noticed by the then sages. Undoubtedly the sages of those days hence were the equivalent of present day scientists, or may I say much more.

Now, the Krittikas were at the summer sosltice last time at around 21000 BCE and Abhijit was the pole star last time at around 12000 BCE!!!